Do I need to have 7 installed to get 10 ?

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# 177224 27-Jul-2015 09:08

Basically, I have legit copy of Windows 7, signed up for Insider program for the previews etc and also had the pop up for upgrading to Windows 10 which I accepted etc. So all ready for Win 10.

Except I then had to blow away my system due to a dodgy Windows Update (I had no System Restore running), reinstalled Windows 7, and avoided doing all the updates (been told which update is causing the issue yet can never see it in the list so I figured I wont do them all) - so since I havent updated much, I havent been seeing the Win 10 popup again.

Then last night, a friends kid knocked the power board my PC is connected to, and somehow caused bit of a surge which knocked out my PC..... power back on and it installed a heap of updates and now system just crashes in a loop again - system restore not working (altho it was enabled).

Figured Ill just wait until 10 is released this week and reinstall then. But am I able to just download the 10 image and install from scratch or do I NEED 7 for that first time upgrade for it to check license etc ? Dont really want to go through two install processes in one week ;)

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# 1352301 27-Jul-2015 09:27

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I've been wondering the same thing.

I've got a couple of devices (incl a Dell tablet) that I'd simply like to do a fresh install on but I'm wondering if and how this could be done.

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# 1352308 27-Jul-2015 09:32

I, too, have been wondering.

I am running a corporate version of 7 currently (not elegible for upgrade), and I need to take it off (it is all legit, from work, but I don't work form home on that PC anymore so it needs to be removed).

I have a genuine win7 OEM sticker on that PC anyway, so was hoping I could kill two birds with one stone by removing the corp win 7 and going straight to 10 by using the OEM key to allow installation of win10 (without installing OEM win 7 first).

Question is, will it do a Key check at any stage to confirm eligibility? Will I need to go to a Microsoft website to upgrade to a Win 10 key from my Win 7 one?

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# 1352319 27-Jul-2015 09:44

You need to have a genuine activated OS to upgrade from, which we use to check you have an eligible OS

Once that check is performed your Windows 10 key is stored in the Cloud and you can fresh install as many times as you like.on that hardware

Bits to do this will.release on July 29

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# 1352326 27-Jul-2015 09:51

OK, Thanks Nathan. Looks like two installs for me then.

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# 1352339 27-Jul-2015 10:09

@Nathan, with Windows 10, does that mean one must always have MSA to log in then?

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# 1352343 27-Jul-2015 10:14

chiefie: @Nathan, with Windows 10, does that mean one must always have MSA to log in then?

No not at all

But just like Google with a play account and just like Apple with the Apple ID, you need an MSA if you want to download from our Store

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# 1352361 27-Jul-2015 10:20

As above you need to have the Windows 7 installed and activated with your license, you can then just download the Windows updates that install the Windows 10 notification.

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# 1352363 27-Jul-2015 10:23

The free upgrade can be deployed in two ways:

Through Windows Update

The simplest option is to connect each device to Windows Update, and upgrade to Windows 10 through that in-place upgrade experience.

Deploy an upgrade image

Upgrade media will be provided as part of the free upgrade offer. This media can be used on a machine (or multiple machines) to initiate the upgrade process. During the process, a Windows 10 license will be obtained from the Windows Store for the device, in the same way that a license would be obtained when upgrading through Windows Update.

The upgrade media is intended to be used to initiate the upgrade process from within a currently-activated Windows OS, not as bootable media, as the upgrade process validates the currently running OS to ensure that it is eligible to be upgraded.

The Windows 10 Pro license created for the device during the upgrade is a consumer license that is tied to the device. The license will continue to work for reinstalling Windows 10 after the free upgrade period ends- on the same device only.

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# 1352369 27-Jul-2015 10:27

Poo. So two isntalls for me :)

Nathan, since I have already signed up for Win 10 when the popup originally showed, I take it I dont have to do the popup again on my fresh install of 7 ?

If I do, Ive got a problem :-p

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# 1352371 27-Jul-2015 10:29

xpd: Poo. So two isntalls for me :)

Nathan, since I have already signed up for Win 10 when the popup originally showed, I take it I dont have to do the popup again on my fresh install of 7 ?

If I do, Ive got a problem :-p

You don't need to have the reservation popup to claim your free upgrade, you will be able to use either of the 2 methods I mentioned above (WU or downloading an ISO image)

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# 1352377 27-Jul-2015 10:35

If I reserve a copy from the popup do I have to install it?

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# 1352388 27-Jul-2015 10:45

freitasm: If I reserve a copy from the popup do I have to install it?

No, you can cancel your reservation at any time prior to installing Windows 10. Here’s how:

Right click on the Get Windows 10 app or Windows icon located in right end of the taskbar.
Select “Check your upgrade status”
Click the menu in the upper left corner, then select “View Confirmation.”
In the lower left, select “Cancel reservation.”

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# 1352389 27-Jul-2015 10:45

freitasm: If I reserve a copy from the popup do I have to install it?

good point - sony has asked owners to wait for driver support in august on this lappie

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# 1352396 27-Jul-2015 10:48

antoniosk:
freitasm: If I reserve a copy from the popup do I have to install it?

good point - sony has asked owners to wait for driver support in august on this lappie

If the machine isn't compatible the reservation prompt will not activate

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# 1352397 27-Jul-2015 10:50

nathan:
freitasm: If I reserve a copy from the popup do I have to install it?

No, you can cancel your reservation at any time prior to installing Windows 10. Here’s how:

Right click on the Get Windows 10 app or Windows icon located in right end of the taskbar.
Select “Check your upgrade status”
Click the menu in the upper left corner, then select “View Confirmation.”
In the lower left, select “Cancel reservation.”

Thanks, but can I keep the reservation and install at my own leisure, or is the install automatic as soon as the files are downloaded?

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