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#3125368 9-Sep-2023 17:11

Some of it could also be the old "a lawyer who represents themselves has a fool for a client" - getting too emotionally involved, failing to do due diligence because it's only your funds at risk, and assuming that the chances of it happening to you are small.

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#3125487 9-Sep-2023 22:43

johno1234: It’s what happens when greed overpowers common sense

Reminds me of the goings on prior to the 1987 share market crash. When my boss's boss told me that his son's rugby team had stopped fundraising and were just investing in the share market, I decided the world had gone a little crazy...

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#3125535 9-Sep-2023 23:57

Bung: When I met Statler & Waldorf they were retired from whatever they did but were on the board of a super fund that my wife worked for.

Was that before or after their Muppets gig?

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#3125750 11-Sep-2023 08:33

I'm sure everyone's seen something similar so it's more of a 'sigh, W*T*F' rather than a 'shock! W*T*F!'

Put a colour laser printer toner cartridge in the shopping basket and get recommended I buy inkjet paper, a black and white laser printer, and an inkjet printer.

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#3125754 11-Sep-2023 08:37

To be fair, some ink costs so much that a new printer is sometimes cheaper...

(Consider that with ink some printers come with a smaller cartridge, so it's cheaper but don't last as long)

(I know you are talking laser toner)

(Tank printers are more economical but cost more)

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#3125891 11-Sep-2023 10:32

freitasm:

(Tank printers are more economical but cost more)

Wow, things really have advanced. Imagine the boost to the Army being able to print a whole tank!😂

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#3125892 11-Sep-2023 10:35

@Dingbatt:

freitasm:

(Tank printers are more economical but cost more)

Wow, things really have advanced. Imagine the boost to the Army being able to print a whole tank!😂

3d print a tank - Bing images

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#3125893 11-Sep-2023 10:37

freitasm:

3d print a tank - Bing images

Considering the NZDF budget, the link is about right.

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#3125898 11-Sep-2023 10:49

freitasm:

To be fair, some ink costs so much that a new printer is sometimes cheaper...

(Consider that with ink some printers come with a smaller cartridge, so it's cheaper but don't last as long)

It didn't go unnoticed that replacement drums plus a toner cartridge of each colour was four times the price of the printer when new!

The replacement toner does last ages. I'm not sure of the capacity of the original cartridges but it certainly isn't much.

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#3127868 14-Sep-2023 17:59

From: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/citizens-arrest-auckland-news-publisher-todd-scott-tackles-and-holds-thief-police-tell-him-to-let-crook-go/W5W6WJKOAFELVHGMMJJYIA7IDQ/

As a man started to abuse staff and tried to leave a downtown Auckland supermarket without paying, news publisher Todd Scott says he acted on instinct - tackling the thief to the ground.

But after holding him down for 10 minutes as staff called police, the owner of the National Business Review said he was surprised by their response, telling him to let the person go or risk being arrested himself.

Scott said the manager went on to tell him that officers could not come to the scene and that he could not make a citizen’s arrest. He was also told that he himself may be arrested.

Lawyer Michael Bott, who specialises in civil liberties law, said Scott was in the wrong when he attempted to make the citizen’s arrest.

Bott explained the quirks to the law and that the “shield of immunity” you receive when attempting to detain a member of the public as a citizen only applies between the hours of 9pm and 6am, or if the offence would amount to more than three years’ imprisonment.

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#3127882 14-Sep-2023 18:46

msukiwi:

Bott explained the quirks to the law and that the “shield of immunity” you receive when attempting to detain a member of the public as a citizen only applies between the hours of 9pm and 6am, or if the offence would amount to more than three years’ imprisonment.

OMG, we were tortured by lawyers during our training as hunters in dealing with weapons, self-defence, putative self-defence, etc. and many did not make it through the examination because of the subject of legal knowledge. Here with us it's like this:

If someone is caught or pursued in the act, and if he is suspected of fleeing or his identity cannot be established immediately, anyone is authorised to arrest him temporarily, even without a court order.

Offences are defined as such, but are not linked to an outcome of the case, a conviction or any sums of value. What is important here are the highlighted circumstances. You can‘t arrest your neighbor, because his identity is known to you. And you can‘t arrest somebody, if the act was in the past or you assume anything. And you cannot temporarily arrest anyone who has a bigger stick in his hand than you! 😄

As a game warden, you are also, by law, an assistant to the public prosecutor. This means that I can give out tickets for someone who drives illegally through the forest by car or motorbike, or arrest them if they commit a crime. These are things I do not wish for ... especially when drugs and weapons may be involved at night.

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#3128059 15-Sep-2023 10:16

Someone at work set up a meeting with me for this afternoon, with no agenda. She just turned up at my desk three and a half hours early and expected me to drop what I was doing and have the meeting then and there instead. I have no words...

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#3128078 15-Sep-2023 10:43

Behodar:

Someone at work set up a meeting with me for this afternoon, with no agenda. She just turned up at my desk three and a half hours early and expected me to drop what I was doing and have the meeting then and there instead. I have no words...

I just take a long drink from my mug which has "A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine" and see how long it takes them to get the hint.

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#3128079 15-Sep-2023 10:45

I told her I had a 10:00 and then I got up and went to a cafe.

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#3128254 15-Sep-2023 17:50

Behodar:

Someone at work set up a meeting with me for this afternoon, with no agenda. She just turned up at my desk three and a half hours early and expected me to drop what I was doing and have the meeting then and there instead. I have no words...

That is not planlessness, that is agility! 😆

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