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  #2947020 27-Jul-2022 17:23
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Behodar:

 

Rikkitic:

 

That there is no backspace key on the Apple laptop. Love them or hate them, they have some weird ideas.

 

 

It's not all that weird in context. It dates back to the keyboard for the Apple IIGS, which was the first Apple II to have a point-and-click GUI and needed a way to delete files etc. You don't backspace a file, you delete it, so the key was marked Delete (this keyboard lacked the 6-key block with Home, End, etc).

 

 

Still weird. On a normal computer, backspace and delete do different things.

 

 





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  #2947028 27-Jul-2022 17:51
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What's really weird is that while Apple label it a delete key, it actually functions the same as a windows backspace key (deleting text to the left of the cursor, not the right).  In order to get it to behave like the windows delete key you have to use Function/Delete.


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  #2947029 27-Jul-2022 18:02
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Rikkitic:

 

That there is no backspace key on the Apple laptop. Love them or hate them, they have some weird ideas.

 

 

 

 

Annoying. I mentioned that on an Yahoo Apple group and I got bagged about it. So opted out. I prefer Apple for a number of reasons but I dislike the devoted's opinions. Ford vs Holden, National vs Labour and so on.  I prefer to sit on the fence and go from there. No flavour is better then the other they just taste different. 


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  #2947031 27-Jul-2022 18:05
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Rikkitic:

 

Still weird. On a normal computer, backspace and delete do different things.

 

 

My computer at work has seperate keys for delete and backspace but I have never really understood the difference between them. 


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  #2947032 27-Jul-2022 18:07
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Tinkerisk:

 

 

 

I had to smile about the long journey to HAM - because it is the IATA 3-letter code for Hamburg airport.

 

 

 

 

Lol. I went to Houston a couple of times, en route to Louisiana  One of a few hubs I went through each year. At ChCh airport (Christchurch) they took an age to find it. IAH is not quite Houston, but quite poor


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  #2947034 27-Jul-2022 18:08
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Behodar:

 

It's not all that weird in context. It dates back to the keyboard for the Apple IIGS, which was the first Apple II to have a point-and-click GUI and needed a way to delete files etc. You don't backspace a file, you delete it, so the key was marked Delete (this keyboard lacked the 6-key block with Home, End, etc).

 

 

Get that but its 2022 or 2002 backspace and delete are two options not one


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  #2947037 27-Jul-2022 18:13
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I get emails from Pizza Hut. They used to be x deal for $29. Ok, I finished school so I can assess that. Now the deals are 3 pizzas for $11 each. $11 sounds cheap, and it is, but the "deal" isn't.

 

I guess its like gidgets are $1 each, sounds cheaper than 10 for TEN DOLLARS


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  #2947104 27-Jul-2022 21:02
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Handsomedan:

Getting on the road at 5.30am

 

 

They have one of those in the morning as well? I never knew.

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  #2947112 27-Jul-2022 21:09
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alasta:

My computer at work has seperate keys for delete and backspace but I have never really understood the difference between them. 

 

 

Backspace moves the carriage one character position to the left while delete, character code 0x7F or seven ones, punches the paper tape at all seven holes, deleting whatever was there before.

 

 

You're welcome.

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  #2947151 28-Jul-2022 00:14
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neb:
alasta:

 

My computer at work has seperate keys for delete and backspace but I have never really understood the difference between them. 

 

 

Backspace moves the carriage one character position to the left while delete, character code 0x7F or seven ones, punches the paper tape at all seven holes, deleting whatever was there before. You're welcome.

 

 

ROFL. Seriously though, backspace removes the character before the cursor and moves the cursor one position to the left, while delete will remove the character after the cursor, keeping the cursor on its position, shifting the trailing characters one position to the left.





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  #2947176 28-Jul-2022 07:36
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neb:
alasta:

 

My computer at work has seperate keys for delete and backspace but I have never really understood the difference between them. 

 

Backspace moves the carriage one character position to the left while delete, character code 0x7F or seven ones, punches the paper tape at all seven holes, deleting whatever was there before. You're welcome.

 

This, of course, applies to Baudot (ITA2) as well but only requires 5 holes.  (It also requires less wide paper tape, thus making it a much more eco-friendly character-set than this newfangled ASCII stuff that the kids are into these days 😝)





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  #2947188 28-Jul-2022 08:47
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tdgeek:

 

Lol. I went to Houston a couple of times, en route to Louisiana  One of a few hubs I went through each year. At ChCh airport (Christchurch) they took an age to find it. IAH is not quite Houston, but quite poor

 

 

It's only called IAH because HOU was already taken - by the airport no-one uses.


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  #2947192 28-Jul-2022 09:02
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freitasm:

 

ROFL. Seriously though, backspace removes the character before the cursor and moves the cursor one position to the left, while delete will remove the character after the cursor, keeping the cursor on its position, shifting the trailing characters one position to the left.

 

 

Yes, I have noticed that, but couldn't you achieve the same thing by positioning the cursor before pressing backspace?

 

If there has to be both a backspace and delete button then I would have thought it would be more user friendly to place the two keys next to each other. 


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  #2947202 28-Jul-2022 09:21
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alasta:

 

freitasm:

 

ROFL. Seriously though, backspace removes the character before the cursor and moves the cursor one position to the left, while delete will remove the character after the cursor, keeping the cursor on its position, shifting the trailing characters one position to the left.

 

 

Yes, I have noticed that, but couldn't you achieve the same thing by positioning the cursor before pressing backspace?

 

If there has to be both a backspace and delete button then I would have thought it would be more user friendly to place the two keys next to each other. 

 

 

Yes, you could but then you have to move the cursor in one position before hitting delete, which means more work.





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  #2947216 28-Jul-2022 09:48
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Ge0rge: I recall being told years ago that "if you come across more than three asshats in one day, perhaps they aren't the asshat".

I wonder if it could equally be applied to idiots on the road...

 

I did consider that, but as I was doing marginally over the speed limit on cruise control (GPS monitored company car) and was passing others and moving to the left when appropriate, I thought I was doing OK. 

 

The said asshats were all in way more of a hurry than the speed limit would allow and were all (without any exaggeration) ducking and diving through the traffic. I wonder if they were all tradies heading to jobs that they were late for? Only reason I can see for driving like that at 5.30am. 





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