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kingdragonfly
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  #3179228 9-Jan-2024 08:12
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Phone survives fall from plane from 16,000 ft

Phone from Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 found near Portland




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  #3179234 9-Jan-2024 08:52
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kingdragonfly: Phone survives fall from plane from 16,000 ft

Phone from Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 found near Portland

 

 

 

100ft or 16,000 ft, makes zero difference once it hits terminal velocity

 

Its hardly streamlined, and it would have tumbled, lowering its terminal velocity

 

It also apparently went through a bush and hit soft ground.

 

So lucky, yes, miracle , maybe not so much.

 

 


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  #3179237 9-Jan-2024 09:28
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Yet if it fell from my pocket the corner would hit concrete and crack the screen 🙁




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  #3179238 9-Jan-2024 09:37
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Bung:

 

Yet if it fell from my pocket the corner would hit concrete and crack the screen 🙁

 

 

Have you tried buttering one side of it and/or attaching it to a cat?

 

 


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  #3179241 9-Jan-2024 09:47
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You have to do both then it doesn't fit my overall pocket.


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  #3179296 9-Jan-2024 10:13
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Bung:

 

You have to do both then it doesn't fit my overall pocket.

 

 

If you try buttering a cat your problems will be bigger than that!

 

 





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  #3179306 9-Jan-2024 10:44
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sir1963: So lucky, yes, miracle , maybe not so much.

My question is what case brand? : )👼

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  #3179427 9-Jan-2024 16:14
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Washington Post: Here’s how an iPhone survived a 16,000-foot fall from a plane
The iPhone was lying on the ground, in airplane mode, with its battery half full. The screen, fully intact, showed a $70 receipt for two checked bags on Alaska Airlines flight 1282.
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“Survived a 16,000 foot drop,” he tweeted. When he called the National Transportation Safety Board, the federal agency investigating the incident, to report the phone, he learned “it was the SECOND phone to be found,” he wrote.
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“The basic answer is air resistance,” said Duncan Watts, a postdoctoral researcher at the Institute of Theoretical Astrophysics at the University of Oslo. “I think the counterintuitive thing here is that an iPhone falling from the sky doesn’t end up moving that quickly because of air resistance.”

Any object falling through toward Earth will reach a point, known as its terminal velocity, where the force of gravity can’t accelerate it anymore because of resistance from the air in the atmosphere.

..."the phone would be tumbling quite a bit, and get quite a lot of wind essentially giving an upward force.”

The terminal velocity of a large screen-down iPhone, according to Watts, would be about 30 mph. “The larger the iPhone, the lower the terminal velocity,”
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Watts said that when we drop a phone from waist-height, it hits the ground at around 10 mph, while a phone dropped from the top of an airplane probably only reaches 50 mph.

Watts pointed out that the phone surely would have been damaged had it landed on stone or pavement, but the grass or foliage it seems to have fallen on cushioned its fall.

“If the iPhone fell on a grassy patch, then it definitely could have survived the fall,” Watts said. “If the phone was facing straight down, it would have gone from about 30 mph to stationary on a relatively cushy surface, a little less force than if I decided to stomp on it.”
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  #3179433 9-Jan-2024 16:31
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kingdragonfly:[snip] The terminal velocity of a large screen-down iPhone, according to Watts, would be about 30 mph. “The larger the iPhone, the lower the terminal velocity,” 
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Watts said that when we drop a phone from waist-height, it hits the ground at around 10 mph, while a phone dropped from the top of an airplane probably only reaches 50 mph.
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So, if you drop a phone from the top of an airplane, it goes faster than terminal velocity? Some strange new physics.


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  #3179435 9-Jan-2024 16:39
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The sheer number of vehicles (Even with trailers) which blast through the Stop Sign at our corner!

 

The CCC Traffic Engineer said "oh, maybe it should be a Give Way!"

 

To which I replied "At a Blind T Intersection?"

 

He replied "Oh, it needs to be a STOP!"

 

If it WAS policed, over $200k per month in fines! YES it is that bad!

 

I've only witnessed one T-Boned motorcyclist so far!

 

The Police aren't interested!

 

(Been told by other that it is like that "everywhere" if you look!)


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  #3179436 9-Jan-2024 16:40
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There's probably some very big error bars on what terminal velocity for a phone is, depending on the phone, case, orientation, and other factors.

 

The biggest one is going to be air density. Air is thinner at higher altitudes, so terminal velocity is higher. I couldn't easily find any pretty graphs, but here's a quick one

 

The terminal velocity of a skydiver is sensitive to the density of air, which varies with altitude: at 10,000 m a terminal velocity of 77 m/s is predicted, at 1,000 m only 45 m/s.


 
 
 

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  #3179441 9-Jan-2024 16:52
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RunningMan:

 

kingdragonfly:[snip] The terminal velocity of a large screen-down iPhone, according to Watts, would be about 30 mph. “The larger the iPhone, the lower the terminal velocity,” 
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Watts said that when we drop a phone from waist-height, it hits the ground at around 10 mph, while a phone dropped from the top of an airplane probably only reaches 50 mph.
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So, if you drop a phone from the top of an airplane, it goes faster than terminal velocity? Some strange new physics.

 

 

I imagine that's feasible. A phone falling corner-first might only become aerodynamically unstable above 50mph. It would then change to a new stable state of 30mph.

 

However, if this wasn't a design feature, I guess it would very unlikely. 

 

 


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  #3179445 9-Jan-2024 16:58
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kingdragonfly: Washington Post: Here’s how an iPhone survived a 16,000-foot fall from a plane
The iPhone was lying on the ground, in airplane mode, with its battery half full. The screen, fully intact, showed a $70 receipt for two checked bags on Alaska Airlines flight 1282.

 

Does anyone else see it as a bit too coincidental that the iPhone fell from Alaska Airlines flight 1282, unlocked, and with an email receipt for checked bags on Alaska Airlines flight 1282 on screen at the time of discovery?

 

Seems to me more likely it's a hoax by someone wanting attention than a real phone surviving a fall.


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  #3179471 9-Jan-2024 19:15
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If the phone was a Russian.

Looks like the authorities weren't happy.

Kids, don't try this at home; the video is age restricted for a reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z64aTzXsdKw

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  #3179599 10-Jan-2024 13:07
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Kyanar:

 

kingdragonfly: Washington Post: Here’s how an iPhone survived a 16,000-foot fall from a plane
The iPhone was lying on the ground, in airplane mode, with its battery half full. The screen, fully intact, showed a $70 receipt for two checked bags on Alaska Airlines flight 1282.

 

Does anyone else see it as a bit too coincidental that the iPhone fell from Alaska Airlines flight 1282, unlocked, and with an email receipt for checked bags on Alaska Airlines flight 1282 on screen at the time of discovery?

 

Seems to me more likely it's a hoax by someone wanting attention than a real phone surviving a fall.

 

 

Or just some incompetent disguise-cut'n'paste by the "reporter". I can imagine how "An email receipt for checked bags on Alaska Airlines flight 1282 was on the phone" could become "...on the screen".

 

 


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