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  #3000488 23-Nov-2022 20:25
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k1w1k1d:Christchurch City Council wants to drop speed limit to 30kph for just about every street around here.

 

...and this will make what difference? 50kph isn't enforced now!

 

I filled in feedback for the speed drop in our Street stating the majority of vehicles do over 50 now with no enforcement, so why go to the expense of changing it without actual enforcement! (Which the CCC etc don't and cannot do!)


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  #3000676 24-Nov-2022 01:23
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They dropped speed limit to 30km/h in my street and bus lanes (Christchurch) I travelled behind a bus at 40km/h.

 

Opps maybe I should’ve  put this in the smile thread. Until I see enforcement will max it at 40.


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  #3000677 24-Nov-2022 05:44
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the open for public consultation just to tick a box in the process, they dont read or care if everyone is opposed to it.

 

Its all part of NZTA's road to zero, which itself is an impossible goal.


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  #3000680 24-Nov-2022 06:51
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Jase2985:

 

the open for public consultation just to tick a box in the process, they dont read or care if everyone is opposed to it.

 

 

Indeed. NZTA has a proposal here in Whakatane to put barriers down the middle of SH30, which is only one lane in each direction. Typical road users are opposed to it. Farmers are opposed to it. Emergency services are opposed to it. People living on a subdivision out there are opposed to it. It comes up frequently in the newspaper and I've yet to see a single person in support of it... except, of course, the NZTA staff who consistently put their fingers in their ears and bleat about how great a plan it is.


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  #3000691 24-Nov-2022 08:41
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Jase2985:

 

Its all part of NZTA's road to zero, which itself is an impossible goal.

 

 

NZTA and everyone else know that the path to a lower road toll is better roads and driver education/training. They don't have the budget to upgrade the roads and don't have the patience to address driver education so all they can come up with is to lower the speed limits. Which only passes the problem to someone else, the police. NZTA don't do enforcement.


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  #3000698 24-Nov-2022 08:48
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Senecio:NZTA and everyone else know that the path to a lower road toll is better roads and driver education/training. They don't have the budget to upgrade the roads and don't have the patience to address driver education so all they can come up with is to lower the speed limits. Which only passes the problem to someone else, the police. NZTA don't do enforcement.

 

 

 

Is it just me or since they got rid of the MOT and rolled enforcement into the Police that behaviour on the Road has got way worse


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  #3000701 24-Nov-2022 08:57
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Jase2985:

 

MurrayM:

 

I got to a form that lists all the different newsletters and lets you unsubscribe from whichever you want by clicking on the "Unsubscribe" link at the bottom of one of their emails. Doing this brought up a form to unsubscribe from just that one mailing list, but at the bottom of the page there was a link that said "Manage my other AA email preferences". Clicking on that got me to a form with 17 different mailing lists that I could unsubscribe from as well as a tickbox at the bottom of the page to unsubscribe from ALL AA emails. Sorry I can't give you a direct link, it seems to be personalised to me.

 

 

so nothing on their website profile then

 

 

Not that I can see. Which to me seems like the logical place for it to be (along with "Unsubscribe" links in every email).


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  #3000717 24-Nov-2022 09:43
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msukiwi:

 

Senecio:NZTA and everyone else know that the path to a lower road toll is better roads and driver education/training. They don't have the budget to upgrade the roads and don't have the patience to address driver education so all they can come up with is to lower the speed limits. Which only passes the problem to someone else, the police. NZTA don't do enforcement.

 

 

 

Is it just me or since they got rid of the MOT and rolled enforcement into the Police that behaviour on the Road has got way worse

 



 

I'd say it's a numbers thing. I barely remember dedicated traffic cops. What was the population then and now?


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  #3000723 24-Nov-2022 09:55
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msukiwi:

 

k1w1k1d:Christchurch City Council wants to drop speed limit to 30kph for just about every street around here.

 

...and this will make what difference? 50kph isn't enforced now!

 

I filled in feedback for the speed drop in our Street stating the majority of vehicles do over 50 now with no enforcement, so why go to the expense of changing it without actual enforcement! (Which the CCC etc don't and cannot do!)

 

 

 

 

I don't really understand the complete lack of speed cameras here. If they want to enforce limits, buy GATSO cameras and change the law so you get points from camera infringements.

 

 

 

It's pretty straightforward (see Europe for details...), yet for some reason not done.






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  #3000725 24-Nov-2022 09:56
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mudguard:I'd say it's a numbers thing. I barely remember dedicated traffic cops. What was the population then and now?

 

3.732 Million (1996)

 

4.915 Million (2022)

 

According to Google.


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  #3000747 24-Nov-2022 10:07
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LinkedIn.  Their endless messages about making myself more marketable, I like my job and employer.   And it's as much of a cesspit as the other mainstream social media platforms, yet I can't really afford not to have a presence on it just in case.

 

At least on Facebook I can have a giggle at some inane trash, take the piss out of my mates or drop a few F-bombs when I see something that makes me cringe or irate.





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  #3000770 24-Nov-2022 10:50
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Behodar:

 

Indeed. NZTA has a proposal here in Whakatane to put barriers down the middle of SH30, which is only one lane in each direction. Typical road users are opposed to it. Farmers are opposed to it. Emergency services are opposed to it. People living on a subdivision out there are opposed to it. It comes up frequently in the newspaper and I've yet to see a single person in support of it... except, of course, the NZTA staff who consistently put their fingers in their ears and bleat about how great a plan it is. 

 

Although that approach completely eliminated the head-on collisions and deaths on the old SH1 (now SH59) Centenial Highway section of road between Pukerua Bay and Paekakariki.


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  #3000776 24-Nov-2022 11:10
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mudguard:

 

I'd say it's a numbers thing. I barely remember dedicated traffic cops. What was the population then and now?

 

 

I well remember this hi-tech stuff when I was a kid in the 1950’s - well before the Police and MOT were merged.

 







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  #3000917 24-Nov-2022 15:07
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Senecio:

NZTA and everyone else know that the path to a lower road toll is better roads and driver education/training.

 

 

And safer cars. That's probably the biggest thing to help with the road toll, the progressive introduction of better and better safety features over the years, in particular the driver assist tech of the last five years or so once everyone had ABS and similar sorted.

 

 

The other thing they need to do is accept that their Road to Zero goal is unattainable. There will never, ever be zero injuries or deaths, ever, no matter what they do. By setting an unreachable target they're forced to keep introducing new restrictions as they chase their unattainable goal until we eventually reach a point where they can't think of anything else to do, we're nowhere near zero injuries or deaths, and everyone is unhappy about the state of affairs.

 

 

Regulatory authorities overseas recognised this decades ago, from actuarial data they figured out that it would cost on average $x million to save one more life, and at some point you hit the law of diminishing returns and call a halt.

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  #3000965 24-Nov-2022 16:33
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The problem with the new safety features on cars is that they are like a box ticking exercise and you have terrible implementations like lane keep assist which just gets turned off all the time because it complains and makes the steering unpleasant. When the things are done well they are great, but almost none I have tried except the tesla have been any use, and the one in the kia was downright dangerous to have on IMO.





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