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  #3048671 10-Mar-2023 15:04
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Behodar:

 

Now I'm not sure whether the car and I both missed an 80 sign after the twisty bit, or whether the speed limit is actually different in the other direction.

 

 

Speed limits in NZ apply to both directions of a particular piece of road. You cannot have (e.g.) a 30kph limit in one direction and an 80kph in the other. I gather that there has been/are efforts to change this, but it's been on the legislative back burner for at least a couple of years.

 

 


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  #3048674 10-Mar-2023 15:14
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Rikkitic:

 

Behodar:

 

It's a good feature as a reminder, but you can't rely on it.

 

 

Which is why people shouldn't be allowed to have these kinds of things.

 

 

Absolutely disagree. It doesn't have to be 100% perfect to be good. For example, ABS is very well established as a useful, occasionally life-saving driver aid. That's despite the fact that it increases braking distances over what a (very skilled) person could achieve.

 

 


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  #3048779 10-Mar-2023 16:44
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floydbloke:

Judge: " Why were you doing 100km/h in a 50 zone when you hit the young woman and the baby in a pram"

 

Defendant: " My car said it was OK."

 

 

Better than "the person pushing the pram was a nun with tattoos, that's a +30 and +10 bonus respectively, I couldn't pass up the opportunity".

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  #3048781 10-Mar-2023 16:55
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frankv: For example, ABS is very well established as a useful, occasionally life-saving driver aid. That's despite the fact that it increases braking distances over what a (very skilled) person could achieve.


 




I thought this has been thoroughly debunked? About the only possible time ABS could be beaten was on gravel, and that was simply because a locked tyre could build up a wedge of material. But I'm sure it could be programmed that way if needed.
As for normal road surfaces there's a reason why ABS is banned from a lot of motorsports, you can absolutely stomp on the pedal and it will haul up the same until you cook your fluid.

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  #3048782 10-Mar-2023 16:56
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A lot of the ABS is worse thing came back from when there was a single modulator doing all 4 wheels so one of them on something slick would cause all of them to pulse making it take longer.





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  #3048791 10-Mar-2023 17:26
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frankv:

 

Absolutely disagree. It doesn't have to be 100% perfect to be good. For example, ABS is very well established as a useful, occasionally life-saving driver aid. That's despite the fact that it increases braking distances over what a (very skilled) person could achieve.

 

 

ABS technicalities aside, the point is the principle of the thing. Most people just aren't bright enough to use this kind of thing correctly. Where sophisticated technologies are not fail safe but require skilled judgement, it is better to stick to the lowest common denominator and keep them out of the hands of the fast and furious brigade. KISS.

 

 





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  #3049146 12-Mar-2023 08:56
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Hamilton City Council with their raised crossings coupled with stupid drivers. This especially applies where these raised crossings are installed at round a bouts.

 

Worst case scenario is you enter a round a bout watching to see you are clear of traffic approaching from your right only to discover after you have entered the round a bout that your exit is blocked by some fool ahead of you who has decided to stop on the far side to allow pedestrians to cross. You are now stuck blocking the round a bout to through traffic on the crossing road.

 

A question for these fools. Do you randomly stop while driving along the street to allow pedestrians to cross? No you don't, then why do it at these raised crossings?

 

They're not marked pedestrian crossings, pedestrian don't have right of way, drivers shouldn't stop.





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  #3049151 12-Mar-2023 09:20
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Technofreak:

 

They're not marked pedestrian crossings, pedestrian don't have right of way, drivers shouldn't stop.

 

 

Damned jaywalkers. Mow 'em down! 

 

 





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  #3049292 12-Mar-2023 15:30
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frankv:

 

Behodar:

 

Now I'm not sure whether the car and I both missed an 80 sign after the twisty bit, or whether the speed limit is actually different in the other direction.

 

 

Speed limits in NZ apply to both directions of a particular piece of road. You cannot have (e.g.) a 30kph limit in one direction and an 80kph in the other. I gather that there has been/are efforts to change this, but it's been on the legislative back burner for at least a couple of years.

 

 

Interesting given the section of SH2 by Whakatiki St in Upper Hutt has 80kmh southbound and 100kmh northbound.  It is median barrier separated though so maybe that makes a difference vs an unbarriered two lane road.





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  #3049296 12-Mar-2023 15:56
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Same with SH2 east of Tauranga. The Te Puke turnoff is 100 when going west and 110 going east.


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  #3049360 12-Mar-2023 21:02
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Technofreak:

Hamilton City Council with their raised crossings coupled with stupid drivers. This especially applies where these raised crossings are installed at round a bouts.


Worst case scenario is you enter a round a bout watching to see you are clear of traffic approaching from your right only to discover after you have entered the round a bout that your exit is blocked by some fool ahead of you who has decided to stop on the far side to allow pedestrians to cross. You are now stuck blocking the round a bout to through traffic on the crossing road.


A question for these fools. Do you randomly stop while driving along the street to allow pedestrians to cross? No you don't, then why do it at these raised crossings?


They're not marked pedestrian crossings, pedestrian don't have right of way, drivers shouldn't stop.



Agreed.

Ditto left turn traffic lights where you turn immediately into a controlled pedestrian crossing and the system is programmed to green light both the pedestrians and the left turning vehicles at the same time.

Insanity.





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  #3049428 12-Mar-2023 22:12
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Technofreak:

 

Hamilton City Council with their raised crossings coupled with stupid drivers. This especially applies where these raised crossings are installed at round a bouts.

 

Worst case scenario is you enter a round a bout watching to see you are clear of traffic approaching from your right only to discover after you have entered the round a bout that your exit is blocked by some fool ahead of you who has decided to stop on the far side to allow pedestrians to cross. You are now stuck blocking the round a bout to through traffic on the crossing road.

 

A question for these fools. Do you randomly stop while driving along the street to allow pedestrians to cross? No you don't, then why do it at these raised crossings?

 

They're not marked pedestrian crossings, pedestrian don't have right of way, drivers shouldn't stop.

 

 

 

 

Palmerston North has the same. Some are labeled that cars have right of way, some aren't.

 

Massey University has them too, but theirs are all actual pedestrian crossings and are labelled as such.

 

This leads to obvious confusion.

 

The whole idea of road markings etc is to supply clarity, so that there is a good indication as to who should be doing what at that point.

 

These stupid bl00dy judder bars (which is all they are) adds confusion, not clarity.


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  #3049429 12-Mar-2023 22:42
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sir1963:

 

These stupid bl00dy judder bars (which is all they are) adds confusion, not clarity.

 

 

Actually, they do a pretty good job of slowing you down.

 

 





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  #3049460 13-Mar-2023 09:29
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Rikkitic:

 

sir1963:

 

These stupid bl00dy judder bars (which is all they are) adds confusion, not clarity.

 

 

Actually, they do a pretty good job of slowing you down.

 

 

They can do on the right kind of street. There others where it just seems to encourage people to slam on their brakes and then gun their engine until the next brake slam. At least the modern long flat speed bumps are pleasant enough to drive over at the intended speed. The old fashioned little sharp ones break your suspension and put you into the head lining at anything over about 5kph.

 

 

 

 


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  #3049462 13-Mar-2023 09:32
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The local council/NZTA have put several in along the Wairarapa stretch of SH2. It's interesting to see the additional damage being done to the road on each side of the hump, particularly on the side after the hump.

Guess it will keep Higgins in business a little longer too.

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