[Annoy] What's something small that really annoys you?

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#3148271 16-Oct-2023 20:59

tstone:

Crowds have been going to Eden Park for over 100 years. I think the current surrounding homeowners are well aware of the purpose of Eden Park and the crowds.

The comparison is flawed. In the meantime, there are huge car parks, megawatt loudspeaker systems, vuvuzelas, drums, drunken, inconsiderate fans, etc.

This is not meant to be a counter-argument, but one should look at the matter realistically. In the case of airports, this is compounded by the greatly increased frequency of flights over the years, possibly night flights, etc. As someone who has made this noise himself professionally, I can only say that it is no longer a matter of three or four Tiger Moths on a green field when, for example, a full-grown Airbus weighing 421 t blows out its thrust reversers from four engines because it may have landed too far behind the touchdown point.

Some airports are proactive and offer residents in certain noise cones, for example, a complete, free installation of triple and double-glazed windows in return for a waiver. Everything is not always black or white, by which I mean that one should take the respective concerns seriously and find a common compromise. The joke "buy a cheap house at the airport and found a citizens' initiative against aircraft noise!" exists all over the world (ok, maybe less so in Russia or China).

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#3148316 17-Oct-2023 08:14

I just don't get it. Why would a property owner, after purchasing a propriety in such an area, suddenly realise that there's an airport/stadium that annoys them? These facilities don't pop-up overnight.

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#3148321 17-Oct-2023 08:29

Near where I live there used to be a mushroom farm. They had great mushrooms in the local shops which I really enjoyed. They were there for years.

Then someone built houses on property surrounding the farm. People bought the houses and complained about the compost smell. The farm, which was a thriving business, no longer exists.

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#3148335 17-Oct-2023 08:58

Rikkitic:

Near where I live there used to be a mushroom farm. They had great mushrooms in the local shops which I really enjoyed. They were there for years.

Then someone built houses on property surrounding the farm. People bought the houses and complained about the compost smell. The farm, which was a thriving business, no longer exists.

Havelock North mushrooms were very tasty. We would visit there and then the Honey place. My wife would always arrive home from a business trip to the Bay with a box of mushrooms.

The mushroom farm in the Wairarapa has also closed. Only have shop purchased mushrooms now and they are not the same.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#3148348 17-Oct-2023 09:44

tstone:

These facilities don't pop-up overnight.

No, but intensities of use can change at short notice. Suddenly, additional cargo flights are conducted at night that were not previously conducted at this airfield. Or the number of take-offs and landings is increased. Or the airfield is cleared for a heavier class of aircraft. Or the permissible emission values are exceeded. Or a sleepy military airfield is "civilised" and used intensively. Or a low-cost airline declares it as its main base of operations and hub. I don't know - there are many reasons why things change. What was tolerable at the time of purchase may no longer be so BECAUSE things change afterwards.

You buy a cheap hut and live in the pampas next to a glider airfield and that's not a problem for anyone. Until suddenly, half a year later, there are motor flights and hobby parachutists who have discovered the place for themselves the whole weekend. And now?

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#3148352 17-Oct-2023 09:59

Tinkerisk:

tstone:

These facilities don't pop-up overnight.

No, but intensities of use can change at short notice. Suddenly, additional cargo flights are conducted at night that were not previously conducted at this airfield. Or the number of take-offs and landings is increased. Or the airfield is cleared for a heavier class of aircraft. Or the permissible emission values are exceeded. Or a sleepy military airfield is "civilised" and used intensively. Or a low-cost airline declares it as its main base of operations and hub. I don't know - there are many reasons why things change. What was tolerable at the time of purchase may no longer be so BECAUSE things change afterwards.

You buy a cheap hut and live in the pampas next to a glider airfield and that's not a problem for anyone. Until suddenly, half a year later, there are motor flights and hobby parachutists who have discovered the place for themselves. And now?

The bit about a military airbase being turned into a commercial airport doesn't "just happen" though - we have one near our house and when it was mooted, the entire surrounding area opposed it and it was shelved indefinitely.
It would have changed everything about the area for miles in every direction.

It wasn't just NIMBYism, either - it was genuine concern regarding not just the right to live peacefully, but also traffic concerns, infrastructure (or the usual lack thereof) etc.

Very different to the likes of two gun clubs and a working forest that the idiot that started this conversation bought next to and started complaining non-stop to the point of having them almost shut down.

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#3148356 17-Oct-2023 10:35

Handsomedan:

The bit about a military airbase being turned into a commercial airport doesn't "just happen" though - we have one near our house and when it was mooted, the entire surrounding area opposed it and it was shelved indefinitely.
It would have changed everything about the area for miles in every direction.

It wasn't just NIMBYism, either - it was genuine concern regarding not just the right to live peacefully, but also traffic concerns, infrastructure (or the usual lack thereof) etc.

I'm not talking about closing down an airfield or a stadium, but about the fact that the original use can change - usually for the worse. Sometimes all it takes is a shift in the local political (interest) leadership. It's good if those affected are asked beforehand.

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#3148358 17-Oct-2023 10:43

richms:
Another one with bunnings and also mitre10.

I need to get a lot of brackets, they both sell the exact same one, its this thing

So you would think it's simple but no. Both of the sites I am expected to choose which store delivers the order, and then tell me that there isn't enough at that store for my order to drops the quantity down to what they think they have (they will not have that many anyway)

So what am I supposed to do? Place multiple orders with multiple delivery charges? Get stuffed.

Just been through a similar exercise with Bunnings. It seems that the delivery charge is the same regardless of distance. If you ignore low stock stores any showing in stock should have the number you want.

I ordered Sun night, it's apparently on my doorstep now.

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#3148414 17-Oct-2023 13:29

Tinkerisk:

tstone:

These facilities don't pop-up overnight.

No, but intensities of use can change at short notice. Suddenly, additional cargo flights are conducted at night that were not previously conducted at this airfield. Or the number of take-offs and landings is increased. Or the airfield is cleared for a heavier class of aircraft. Or the permissible emission values are exceeded. Or a sleepy military airfield is "civilised" and used intensively. Or a low-cost airline declares it as its main base of operations and hub. I don't know - there are many reasons why things change. What was tolerable at the time of purchase may no longer be so BECAUSE things change afterwards.

You buy a cheap hut and live in the pampas next to a glider airfield and that's not a problem for anyone. Until suddenly, half a year later, there are motor flights and hobby parachutists who have discovered the place for themselves the whole weekend. And now?

Nobody can suddenly and arbitrarily commence or increase commercial aviation activities above the current permit at any NZ aerodrome or airport - it is very tightly controlled and very easy to prevent with ongoing objections.

North Shore Aerodrome applied to upgrade to commercial airport. Denied permission.

Proposal for Whenuapai to convert to a commercial airport. Denied permission.

Christchurch Airport company trying to get permission to build an airport at Tarras. Very long odds on that getting approval.

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#3148426 17-Oct-2023 14:09

Bung:

Just been through a similar exercise with Bunnings. It seems that the delivery charge is the same regardless of distance. If you ignore low stock stores any showing in stock should have the number you want.

I ordered Sun night, it's apparently on my doorstep now.

Yes, but I still have to go and click thru the stores myself with no indication of the stock count, putting in various locations and seeing what stores are near that place to order from.

If the end result is 1 or more store puts things in a box and put a label on it, I should have no concern about what store it is that does the work. its a single website I am dealing with.

I can sort of understand it with Mitre10 with their owner operated store model where I have to choose the store so they get the sale, but really the website should just sort that out for me and choose the closest ones as they have stock so that they get rewarded for having their store close to me.

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#3148489 17-Oct-2023 17:01

This isn't really little and it doesn't annoy me, it makes me really angry:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/133135046/teenager-jailed-after-fatal-martial-artsstyle-kick-to-mans-head

A teenager (19 years old) kicked a man in the head, killing him. He then high-fived his mate and laughed.

He's been sentenced to 2 years for Manslaughter and then given leave to apply for home detention.

Judges need to be the victims of some of this crime, so they can start applying common sense to sentencing instead of the bleeding heart liberalism they seem to keen to provide.
I'd be waiting outside his home with a crowbar every single day, if I was the man's son. I'd happily do 2 years Home D for that kind of revenge.

"In sentencing Nagel, Justice Dunningham granted him discounts for his guilty plea, youth, personal factors and his remorse and rehabilitation prospects."
What a load of absolute b0ll0cks.

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#3148494 17-Oct-2023 17:07

johno1234:

Nobody can suddenly and arbitrarily commence or increase commercial aviation activities above the current permit at any NZ aerodrome or airport - it is very tightly controlled and very easy to prevent with ongoing objections.

Any aviation authority can do that, and administrative procedures can take time. And if the authorities don't talk to each other, there is sometimes a wind turbine in the middle of the approach path of an airfield and there is a NOTAM to fly around it until it is dismantled ... I've already experienced this myself.

There is no such thing as a mistake when filling a presidential position as well , is there? You've already understood what I mean.

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#3148497 17-Oct-2023 17:17

Tinkerisk:

johno1234:

Nobody can suddenly and arbitrarily commence or increase commercial aviation activities above the current permit at any NZ aerodrome or airport - it is very tightly controlled and very easy to prevent with ongoing objections.

Any aviation authority can do that, and administrative procedures can take time. And if the authorities don't talk to each other, there is sometimes a wind turbine in the middle of the approach path of an airfield and there is a NOTAM to fly around it until it is dismantled ... I've already experienced this myself.

There is no such thing as a mistake when filling a presidential position as well , is there? You've already understood what I mean.

No. The problem is not aeronautical technicalities nor the aviation bureaucracy.

The hard or impossible part is getting past the political and resource consent processes. It is a national and local government issue not a civil aviation issue.

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#3148500 17-Oct-2023 17:31

Handsomedan:

This isn't really little and it doesn't annoy me, it makes me really angry:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/133135046/teenager-jailed-after-fatal-martial-artsstyle-kick-to-mans-head

A teenager (19 years old) kicked a man in the head, killing him. He then high-fived his mate and laughed.

He's been sentenced to 2 years for Manslaughter and then given leave to apply for home detention.

Judges need to be the victims of some of this crime, so they can start applying common sense to sentencing instead of the bleeding heart liberalism they seem to keen to provide.
I'd be waiting outside his home with a crowbar every single day, if I was the man's son. I'd happily do 2 years Home D for that kind of revenge.

"In sentencing Nagel, Justice Dunningham granted him discounts for his guilty plea, youth, personal factors and his remorse and rehabilitation prospects."
What a load of absolute b0ll0cks.

In my experience as a former journalist, what gets reported is more often than not far removed from what actually happened. There may well be a good reason for your anger, but it is a mistake to base that on media reports. Think iceberg. In these kinds of cases there is usually a lot more beneath the surface than what you see. Most judges are not idiots or closet gang members. Of course some do make mistaken or stupid judgements, but that is the exception not the rule. If you want to get angry about this, do the in-depth research to make sure you are getting angry about the right thing.

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#3148501 17-Oct-2023 17:32

The bank emailing me to say that they are sending a letter.

What I think about that absurdity will not make it past the forum filters.

Whats the odds that they say that email isn't secure enough but they are quite happy protecting this super secret content behind a paper and window envelope that many people handle before it gets to me.

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