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#3210688 25-Mar-2024 16:29

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Cycle phobia is the current pandemic in Aotearoa

LOL. Hardly. The amount of resources assigned to the relatively small number of cyclists in NZ is beyond the pale.

Name another country where a BUSY car lane, is removed in favour of the 6 cyclists who use it a day.

It must cool to have the time to sit day after day and count the cycles using a cycle lane.

Maybe Fremulon can treat this phobia but I'm not a doctor.

To be fair, The Wellington, Christchurch and Auckland City councils will do it for you - but then, that doesn't provide the evidence for six people a day of course...

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#3210689 25-Mar-2024 16:32

Rikkitic:

Never mind that fuel taxes and RUC charges are to compensate the damage done by motorised vehicles...

That's not correct. Fuel taxes, RUC and also licensing, registration and tolling fees fund the National Land Transport Fund which is uses for "safer, more accessible, better connected and more resilient land transport system that keeps New Zealand moving.". That means all of planning, constructing, maintaining and repairing roads, walkways, cycleways and public transport. "compensate the damage done by motorised vehicles" would fit in there as a lesser component than building and things like post disaster reconstruction. Funds are also allocated to walkways and cycleways - you're welcome.

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#3210722 25-Mar-2024 17:31

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LOL. Hardly. The amount of resources assigned to the relatively small number of cyclists in NZ is beyond the pale.

Name another country where a BUSY car lane, is removed in favour of the 6 cyclists who use it a day.

Name another country where it is so hard to get people out of their bloody cars. You will never be able to persuade more than 6 cyclists a day to use a facility unless the facility first exists. Same with busses. No bus service, no passengers. No passengers, no bus service. How to get passengers? First make sure there is a reliable bus service, even if it means running a few years with no passengers. Same with cyclists. You are making a false argument here.

A second consideration is that making things harder for cars encourages people to consider alternatives.

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#3210724 25-Mar-2024 17:37

johno1234:

An excessive degree of hypersensitivity, literalism and hyperbole in posts.

Only in the Annoyances thread. Anywhere else you will just encounter indifference, prevarication and understatement.

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#3210725 25-Mar-2024 17:38

neb:
networkn:

The amount of resources assigned to the relatively small number of cyclists in NZ is beyond the pale.

It's like some politician went on a taxpayer-funded fact-finding junk^H^H^H^Htrip to somewhere like Amsterdam or Copenhagen and said "hey, we can do that here too!", ignoring the fact that both of those cities are flat and level with straight roads and set up more or less from the start for pedestrian and cycle traffic rather than hilly with roads winding all over the place and set up from the start for cars. Like Brexit, I wonder when someone's finally going to be brave enough to say "well, that didn't work". (Nothing against cycling or cyclists, it's just that many of NZ's cities really, really aren't suited for them).

You would be amazed what you can do with 10 gears and an electric motor.

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#3210726 25-Mar-2024 17:46

johno1234:

That's not correct. Fuel taxes, RUC and also licensing, registration and tolling fees fund the National Land Transport Fund which is uses for "safer, more accessible, better connected and more resilient land transport system that keeps New Zealand moving.". That means all of planning, constructing, maintaining and repairing roads, walkways, cycleways and public transport. "compensate the damage done by motorised vehicles" would fit in there as a lesser component than building and things like post disaster reconstruction. Funds are also allocated to walkways and cycleways - you're welcome.

Without motor vehicles no roads would be needed, no major traffic accidents would occur, no fossil fuel pollution would darken the skies, no global warming would be happening, no walkways and cycleways would be needed because no death machines would be hurtling towards people at speeds no-one can avoid. I am not arguing that motorised vehicles should not exist, but they do far worse damage than people realise. In no way do pedal machines even begin to compare with this.

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#3210727 25-Mar-2024 17:47

Rikkitic:

Only in the Annoyances thread. Anywhere else you will just encounter indifference, prevarication and understatement.

I had a prevarication once. No matter how much ointment I slathered on it, it simply would not go away.
Healed up on it's own in the end.

Oh no. That was a veruca. My bad.

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#3210734 25-Mar-2024 18:43

Rikkitic:
You would be amazed what you can do with 10 gears and an electric motor.

Even then you still need the right environment. Here there's a long, steep winding hill (which admittedly an e-bike can deal with), then a long hilly road with rows of cars parked on both sides and enough traffic including buses that it'd be suicide to take a bike down so you'd have to bump up and down on the footpath, then Glenfield Road/Wairau, four lanes of neverending traffic with more hills and traffic lights at every intersection. And that's just to get to the road you have to be on to start going wherever you're going, of which most continuing routes are as bad or worse.

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#3210735 25-Mar-2024 18:50

Technofreak:

Your comment doesn't apply. No problem here with the 2 second rule.

I'm not talking about when travelling at anything close to 80 km. More like less than 50 km/hr.

I still don't understand why you think it is good driving to follow so close that you prevent anyone changing lane. Or that you think it's those that follow at a more relaxed distance who cause congestion, not those who weave between lanes trying to win a slight advantage.

2s at 40kph is 22m. Average car length about 5m. What's the following distance recommended to prevent lane changes?

I normally drive with cruise control on. I find at motorway speeds, the closest setting gives about 1.5s following distance, which as noted above with good brakes etc is reasonable. At town speeds, the middle setting seems more appropriate.

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#3210737 25-Mar-2024 18:53

networkn:
Handle9: Russell Coutts

Beat me to it. What a through and through knob.

I encountered him in person when I was on the finishing boat crew for a regatta and he was coaching some kids.

Guess what - he was just the same. A very highly accomplished yachtsman, but seems to have had a personality bypass

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#3210743 25-Mar-2024 19:23

Rikkitic:

no fossil fuel pollution would darken the skies, no global warming would be happening

Load of garbage

Fossel fueled power plants, coal fired power plants, trucks, planes, rockets etc etc etc

Cars and other passenger vehicles were responsible for 27 percent of New Zealand's gross carbon dioxide emissions in 2018

Cars and vans account for around 10 percent of global CO₂ emissions

Ours is likely higher % wise as we have such a green power grid

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#3210806 25-Mar-2024 20:03

Rikkitic:

Name another country where it is so hard to get people out of their bloody cars. You will never be able to persuade more than 6 cyclists a day to use a facility unless the facility first exists. Same with busses. No bus service, no passengers. No passengers, no bus service. How to get passengers? First make sure there is a reliable bus service, even if it means running a few years with no passengers. Same with cyclists. You are making a false argument here.

A second consideration is that making things harder for cars encourages people to consider alternatives.

The facilities exist, cost hundreds of millions and perhaps now 7 people use it, when before, 6 people cycled down the same road as the cars went down. Woo, what progress! Perhaps we could call it KiwiCycle :) Maybe, at this rate, we could expect 20 people might use it, before the lane needs routine maintenance costing another dozens of millions and taking 6 months! We have buses, they are so packed, people don't get picked up. Perhaps we could have a bus lane, wait, no room, there is a cycle lane there!

I am not anti cyclists, nor anti cycle lanes, we have lots in the city that get tons of use and in areas where it's evidenced. I am pro reducing car use where it's indicated. Your comments smack of being happy 'progress' is being made, because you don't have to deal with the inconvenience or make use of the actual changes.

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#3210807 25-Mar-2024 20:04

neb:

Even then you still need the right environment. Here there's a long, steep winding hill (which admittedly an e-bike can deal with), then a long hilly road with rows of cars parked on both sides and enough traffic including buses that it'd be suicide to take a bike down so you'd have to bump up and down on the footpath, then Glenfield Road/Wairau, four lanes of neverending traffic with more hills and traffic lights at every intersection. And that's just to get to the road you have to be on to start going wherever you're going, of which most continuing routes are as bad or worse.

Knock it off with your logic and common sense, we are trying to have a rant here :)

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#3210813 25-Mar-2024 20:23

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Load of garbage

Fossel fueled power plants, coal fired power plants, trucks, planes, rockets etc etc etc

Cars and other passenger vehicles were responsible for 27 percent of New Zealand's gross carbon dioxide emissions in 2018

Cars and vans account for around 10 percent of global CO₂ emissions

Ours is likely higher % wise as we have such a green power grid

I find it heartwarming that there are people here willing to devote time and attention to scrutinising my posts for perceived errors. It is reassuring to know that my opinions carry such weight.

I am also glad to know New Zealand is a shining example for the rest of the world when it comes to motorcar pollution. That would have been useful when I lived in Los Angeles in the 1960s, and I couldn’t see the other side of the street from the smog, and my eyes wouldn’t stop streaming.

Whether 100% or 10%, cars pollute. It is one of the prices people seem willing to pay for them. They don’t just pollute directly either. Everything that goes into the manufacture of them contributes, as does all the infrastructure and associated technology they require. There are better alternatives in most cases.

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#3210815 25-Mar-2024 20:25

networkn:

The facilities exist, cost hundreds of millions and perhaps now 7 people use it, when before, 6 people cycled down the same road as the cars went down. Woo, what progress! Perhaps we could call it KiwiCycle :) Maybe, at this rate, we could expect 20 people might use it, before the lane needs routine maintenance costing another dozens of millions and taking 6 months! We have buses, they are so packed, people don't get picked up. Perhaps we could have a bus lane, wait, no room, there is a cycle lane there!

I am not anti cyclists, nor anti cycle lanes, we have lots in the city that get tons of use and in areas where it's evidenced. I am pro reducing car use where it's indicated. Your comments smack of being happy 'progress' is being made, because you don't have to deal with the inconvenience or make use of the actual changes.

Actually, valid points. But that doesn't invalidate the principle I am putting forward.

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