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  #3312660 25-Nov-2024 13:03
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floydbloke:

 

...or the cost-of-living crisis.  Rubbish disposal is expensive and going up like most other things.  Could be these folks decided can no longer afford it.

 

 

I don't accept that. People have been dumping rubbish illegally since I was born in the 70's. Probably well before that but I can't confirm. 


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  #3312825 25-Nov-2024 17:53
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Two things today.

 

I wish temporary speed limits had a requirement to specify the end date (or at least the end event, e.g. completion of roadworks). There's been a "temporary" speed reduction near me for more than two years now.

 

Also, the sheer unreliability of Apple AirDrop.


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  #3312850 25-Nov-2024 20:00
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Behodar:

 

Two things today.

 

I wish temporary speed limits had a requirement to specify the end date (or at least the end event, e.g. completion of roadworks). There's been a "temporary" speed reduction near me for more than two years now.

 

 

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  #3312927 25-Nov-2024 22:34
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Handsomedan:

 

When it rains it pours. 
Discovered that the issue with the washing machine we had been having was easily solved by fitting new hoses. 
$50 later, we're back up and running and everyone is happy. 

 

Two days later the motherboard is fried. 

 

New washing machine purchase required! 

 

Thankfully it's "black friday sale" season and we got $500 off a new front loader (LG thing with "Ai" and load sensing etc) and we've been able to continue doing laundry like proper humans. 

 

It was money we didn't have and didn't want to spend, but it is what it is and next up it's Christmas. 

 

 

I forgot to mention that earlier this month, my PC's PSU had a short. It wasn't even 2 years old so it was still within manufacturer's warranty, only to be replaced with a similar model from a different brand due to the original being discontinued.





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  #3312958 26-Nov-2024 09:14
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Behodar:

 

Two things today.

 

I wish temporary speed limits had a requirement to specify the end date (or at least the end event, e.g. completion of roadworks). There's been a "temporary" speed reduction near me for more than two years now.

 

Also, the sheer unreliability of Apple AirDrop.

 

 

Temporary speed limits are set under the Land Transport: Setting of Speed Limits Rule 2024.  They are for a maximum of 12 months, unless approval is given by the Director of Land Transport to extend it because of the ongoing safety risk.  They can be set for one of four purposes - the presence of work occurring on or adjacent to the road, the presence of an unsafe road surface or structure, an emergency, or a special event.  I wish I could say that every road controlling authority (including Waka Kotahi NZTA) follows this to the letter, but often they get overlooked.


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  #3312969 26-Nov-2024 09:20
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I'm sure this has been mentioned in the thread more than once, but it's seasonal so I'll raise it again - "Black Friday" sales.  For starters, it's another imported American "tradition", following Thanksgiving (which is on a Thursday - 28 November, this year).  Yet here in NZ the "Black Friday" sales start a fortnight beforehand and run for weeks.  Secondly, the sales are often pitiful.  We get bombarded with advertising for "incredible savings" which are less impressive than Briscoes weekly "sales."  Thirdly, the sheer number of retailers (and now service providers) which are jumping on the bandwagon.  The collective idiocy is mind-boggling - they don't seem to realise that by joining in they are just diluting the effect, and inuring people to the word "sale."  Whenever I get an email (I really should get around to unsubscribing) from some company I've vaguely looked at in the past 10 years screaming about their latest and greatest "Black Friday" sale, I just immediately delete.  It's almost never a good deal...


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  #3313307 26-Nov-2024 21:12
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Went to the doc for a sore back for which he prescribed me a muscle relaxant

 

Now I've got a sore back and legs like jelly.

 

First time I've ever been prescribed it so wasn't expecting to nearly twist my ankle 





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  #3313315 26-Nov-2024 23:15
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MadEngineer:

Went to the doc for a sore back for which he prescribed me a muscle relaxant


Now I've got a sore back and legs like jelly.


First time I've ever been prescribed it so wasn't expecting to nearly twist my ankle 


Muscle relaxant Norflex for back spasms? Greatest relief from agony I’ve ever known.

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  #3313336 27-Nov-2024 08:46
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Lizard1977:

 

I'm sure this has been mentioned in the thread more than once, but it's seasonal so I'll raise it again - "Black Friday" sales.  For starters, it's another imported American "tradition", following Thanksgiving (which is on a Thursday - 28 November, this year).  Yet here in NZ the "Black Friday" sales start a fortnight beforehand and run for weeks.  Secondly, the sales are often pitiful.  We get bombarded with advertising for "incredible savings" which are less impressive than Briscoes weekly "sales."  Thirdly, the sheer number of retailers (and now service providers) which are jumping on the bandwagon.  The collective idiocy is mind-boggling - they don't seem to realise that by joining in they are just diluting the effect, and inuring people to the word "sale."  Whenever I get an email (I really should get around to unsubscribing) from some company I've vaguely looked at in the past 10 years screaming about their latest and greatest "Black Friday" sale, I just immediately delete.  It's almost never a good deal...

 

 

I don't get it. It seems to me to be economic idiocy. Why would you discount a product you're more than likely going to sell at the normal price anyway?

 

Sales used to be to get rid of stock that's been hanging around for a long time and or has been superseded, not to sell current stock. Why would you want to cut your much needed profit and by doing so cut your own throat with this stupidity? The trouble is once one idiot starts you're kind of forced to follow suit.

 

Yes I know someone will say the extra turnover will make up for the discount. Does it really? I doubt it. Especially when eveyone is at it by running sales. You're just going to sell the same amount of stuff at a lower price.

 

Also you need to think about how much extra you need to sell to make up for a discount. For example let's say you have a 50% mark up. A product you buy for $66.67 is sold for $100. Gross profit is $33.33 Lets say your costs of sales is $15. Total costs to you of $81.67. That leaves you $18.33 nett profit.

 

If you have a sale with 15% off, the sale price is now $85 leaving you with $3.33 nett profit. That's a reduction on nett profit of about 80%. That's a huge amount of extra sales you need to make. 





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  #3313340 27-Nov-2024 08:55
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Sooner or later some of the competition drop out.

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  #3313344 27-Nov-2024 09:01
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Bung: Sooner or later some of the competition drop out.

 

Survival is, who bleeds to death last. Brilliant.





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  #3313364 27-Nov-2024 10:05
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For consumers, it means we are now conditioned to never buy anything when it's not on sale.  We know that there's always another sale just round the corner.

 

Using my own sample set of one (me). 

 

I waited to buy a second PS5 controller until it hit best Black Friday sale price of $84.

 

I buy my running shoes from Rebel, either on clearance or sale.

 

Any kitchenware is purchased from Briscoes during their non stop "sales".

 

And no doubt many more examples I could come up with if I spent more than a few minutes thinking about it.





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  #3313366 27-Nov-2024 10:17
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geoffwnz:

 

For consumers, it means we are now conditioned to never buy anything when it's not on sale.  We know that there's always another sale just round the corner.

 

Using my own sample set of one (me). 

 

I waited to buy a second PS5 controller until it hit best Black Friday sale price of $84.

 

I buy my running shoes from Rebel, either on clearance or sale.

 

Any kitchenware is purchased from Briscoes during their non stop "sales".

 

And no doubt many more examples I could come up with if I spent more than a few minutes thinking about it.

 


The two classic examples of "Never buy when it's not on sale" are Briscoes and Kathmandu. 

The old saying of "Kathmandu have great stuff, if you buy it on sale" has held true for over a decade. Why pay full price ($300+ for a coat) when you can get it on sale for $99 at least twice in a calendar year? 

And as for Briscoes...it's always a sale for some reason or other - usually up to 60% off. 
The most regular sale type there is the "We're having a sale to celebrate the end of the last sale" sale. 





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  #3313371 27-Nov-2024 10:35
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johno1234:
MadEngineer:

Went to the doc for a sore back for which he prescribed me a muscle relaxant


Now I've got a sore back and legs like jelly.


First time I've ever been prescribed it so wasn't expecting to nearly twist my ankle 


Muscle relaxant Norflex for back spasms? Greatest relief from agony I’ve ever known.
Yep. I’ll have to try it again after work.




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  #3313372 27-Nov-2024 10:41
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Technofreak:

 

I don't get it. It seems to me to be economic idiocy. Why would you discount a product you're more than likely going to sell at the normal price anyway?

 

Sales used to be to get rid of stock that's been hanging around for a long time and or has been superseded, not to sell current stock. Why would you want to cut your much needed profit and by doing so cut your own throat with this stupidity? The trouble is once one idiot starts you're kind of forced to follow suit.

 

Yes I know someone will say the extra turnover will make up for the discount. Does it really? I doubt it. Especially when eveyone is at it by running sales. You're just going to sell the same amount of stuff at a lower price.

 

Also you need to think about how much extra you need to sell to make up for a discount. For example let's say you have a 50% mark up. A product you buy for $66.67 is sold for $100. Gross profit is $33.33 Lets say your costs of sales is $15. Total costs to you of $81.67. That leaves you $18.33 nett profit.

 

If you have a sale with 15% off, the sale price is now $85 leaving you with $3.33 nett profit. That's a reduction on nett profit of about 80%. That's a huge amount of extra sales you need to make. 

 

 

Depends on the P&Ls of the retailer and the manufacturer, and it differs depending on the industry too. Sales may be funded by the retailer, or they may be funded by the manufacturer. What if you sell ten times as many units when on sale? 





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