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  #2600564 9-Nov-2020 16:52
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New sea freight option:

 





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  #2600576 9-Nov-2020 17:08
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Just as a matter of interest - Amazon UK won't send here because of the gst thing, so is there anything stopping me ordering from Amazon UK to send to Youshop US and from Youshop US to here ? So I'd have to pay postage to US and gst and postage to NZ but would presumably avoid VAT.

 

It might not actually work / be a disaster in real life but theoretically ?





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  #2600583 9-Nov-2020 17:31
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rb99:

Just as a matter of interest - Amazon UK won't send here because of the gst thing, so is there anything stopping me ordering from Amazon UK to send to Youshop US and from Youshop US to here ? So I'd have to pay postage to US and gst and postage to NZ but would presumably avoid VAT.


It might not actually work / be a disaster in real life but theoretically ?



Mmm, gaming the privately-contracted system set up by NZ Post to generate income for our government (& bring overseas purchases here too).

What could possibly go wrong?




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  #2600594 9-Nov-2020 18:18
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Methinks they are taking the piss a bit with that price for that delivery time.

 

 





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  #2600596 9-Nov-2020 18:20
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Lias:

 

Methinks they are taking the piss a bit with that price for that delivery time.

 

 

Probably just so they can market their pricing on TV as "Postage options starting from just $10".


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  #2600606 9-Nov-2020 18:42
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1024kb:
rb99:

 

Just as a matter of interest - Amazon UK won't send here because of the gst thing, so is there anything stopping me ordering from Amazon UK to send to Youshop US and from Youshop US to here ? So I'd have to pay postage to US and gst and postage to NZ but would presumably avoid VAT.

 

 

 

It might not actually work / be a disaster in real life but theoretically ?

 



Mmm, gaming the privately-contracted system set up by NZ Post to generate income for our government (& bring overseas purchases here too).

What could possibly go wrong?

 

Gaming the system ? Moi ? But I'd rather brilliantly still be paying gst while not paying vat to a country I don't live in.

 

But yes, if it can go wrong, it will...





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  #2600610 9-Nov-2020 18:53
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Be great if the had from UK.. even better if they would/could refund VAT paid. Else you double pay TAX 

 

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  #2600613 9-Nov-2020 18:57
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rb99:

 

Just as a matter of interest - Amazon UK won't send here because of the gst thing, so is there anything stopping me ordering from Amazon UK to send to Youshop US and from Youshop US to here ? So I'd have to pay postage to US and gst and postage to NZ but would presumably avoid VAT.

 

It might not actually work / be a disaster in real life but theoretically ?

 

 

 

 

Be better if YouShop refunded VAT as part of Shipping to NZ.. and they get VAT refund back off of UK Tax Dept.

 

But appears they don't allow it https://www.gov.uk/tax-on-shopping/taxfree-shopping 

 

Goods you cannot get a refund for

 

You cannot get a VAT refund for:

 

  • mail order goods, including internet sales, delivered outside of the UK


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  #2600623 9-Nov-2020 19:25
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That sounds less like 'cannot' and more like 'we can't be bothered organising'.

 

Although I guess/hope for Amazon they'd take vat off before it even gets to Youshop.





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  #2600701 9-Nov-2020 20:59
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I recently purchased a used item from a private seller via Ebay UK and am having it delivered via Youshop.

 

Youshop charged me postage and GST. The GST component surprised me as I thought it would only apply to new items purchased from retailers, not used items sold privately. And given used items from private sellers domestically (eg Trademe) are not subject to GST, why not the same rules for overseas purchases?


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  #2600706 9-Nov-2020 21:25
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My understanding is that used goods purchased overseas have never had GST paid on them in NZ.. so it is due.. The used item off Trade Me has.. so is exempt.


 
 
 

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  #2600719 9-Nov-2020 21:41
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It's getting back to the stage it's easier to have supportive friends or family in locations you want to ship from.

 

Although I can see the sea freight version helpful on occassion e.g. shipping Li batteries (it looks from their new information like Youshop is no longer accepting Li batteries via Air post under any circumstances).


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  #2601618 11-Nov-2020 11:09
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Lias:

 

Methinks they are taking the piss a bit with that price for that delivery time.

 

 

 

 

Maybe not. From the FAQ

 

 

 

Sailing schedule

 

Parcels are dispatched via Sea Freight once a month.

 

Parcels are estimated to arrive between 45-60 days after payment is made.

 

 

 

Clearly they are doing freight consolidation and therefore have a ship booked once a month.  Though I wonder if a ship is about to leave in a week and you place an order, can they put that item in that container?

 

Note I have waited up to 6 weeks from Ali so I have developed patience :-(





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  #2602159 11-Nov-2020 19:59
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lchiu7:

 

Maybe not. From the FAQ

 

 

They are charging half the price for 4 times as much delay, and sea freight is generally much cheaper than air freight.





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  #2623298 17-Dec-2020 14:53
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I don't think sea freight for mail (when it existed) was that much cheaper than air mail, at least since the 1990s or probably earlier. Sea freight for bulk shipments sure, but this isn't that. There's still a lot of handling for lots of small packages. I mean look at the price for shipping within in NZ, especially the retail price. 


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