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  #2228898 1-May-2019 18:19
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I had a look around the NZHerald site this morning and most of the articles are Premium.Not a lot of free material available. 

 

In the introduction interview with the Editor I think he states that "most" of the content is free. I beg to differ what I am seeing.

 

 

On the Whanganui Chronicle site today, of the material datelined 1st May there are thirteen "premium" articles and eight free access articles.
That makes it much less than "most" of the content being free to access. Unless you consider 38% to be "most" - maybe NZME's arithmetic is as poor as their journalism?

 

 

 

 

But are their 13 extra stories now, than there would have previously been? It appears there are more stories published, than just those that are on the homepage, but the premium ones seem to be promoted to the homepage. So if you don't use the homepage, it appears there are a lot more non premium stories. 

 

 

No, these are not extra stories at all.

 

They include such obviously "premium" content as Clarke Gayford gets behind the wheel before throwing line into sea or Community supports meningitis fundraiser in memory of Chloe Boniface, Anti-1080 campaigners make noise, Doc hits back and Gun pointed at scared Castlecliff Hotel owner during robbery.

 

This is just the same old same old NZME content that was free last week and "Premium" this week.
My view is that it’s going to drive clicks away from NZME sites at a great rate of knots. I certainly won’t be looking at it nearly so often, even though it's the only local publication.




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  #2228905 1-May-2019 18:34
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If you pay, you shouldn't have advertising...

 

Buhahahahahahahahaha!!!! -- Sincerely, Sky TV

 

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  #2228906 1-May-2019 18:35
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I wonder what the take-up will be like in, say, 3-6 months?




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  #2228914 1-May-2019 19:12
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Can we define premium content, and while we are here, the substandard content from seemingly everyone else??

 

I see content from Kardashians, ok we can place that where it needs to be

 

I see an article on climate change, ChCh attacks, many other topics, that are full of facts, I take that as premium. 

 

Opinion pieces, what about them?

 

I use Stuff, for the sole reason that the homepage layout is content friendly. We have a thread for stupid Stuff and Herald articles, but I see MANY here seem to use them. 

 

I look at Stuff I filter out the clickbait articles, the BIG headline that is not representative of the article. I see that many articles are not Stuff reporters, I look elsewhere its the same. News is everywhere, ONE news item goes to all providers. yes, they each have reporters, and biases, but in the overall scheme of things do we need to worry about the fillers? 

 

Id rather use an easy layout and filter out the extras.


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  #2228955 1-May-2019 20:32
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As for "opinion" pieces on the Herald - for my 2c, I definitely wouldn't pay anything to read the opinions of Mike Hosking or Leighton Smith, never mind hearing them for free. Who would pay to listen to them? I mean, really?


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  #2228957 1-May-2019 20:35
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quickymart:

 

As for "opinion" pieces on the Herald - for my 2c, I definitely wouldn't pay anything to read the opinions of Mike Hosking or Leighton Smith, never mind hearing them for free. Who would pay to listen to them? I mean, really?

 

 

Agree. Opinion pieces can be anywhere from outright bias, to a sound read. But mainly based on clicks. A news website has "news" and other stuff. I tend to ignore most of the other stuff. As I want news not 'tainment


 
 
 

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  #2228964 1-May-2019 20:52
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I'm not normally one for unbridled sarcasim but...

 

I will really really miss their most useful, honest and accurate news reporting.





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  #2229123 2-May-2019 07:55
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Just having a quick look this morning and they even class their "sideswipe" area as Premium now, sideswipe tend to be photos / comments that are sent into them of dumb things like peoples parking.


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  #2229145 2-May-2019 08:16
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tripp:

Just having a quick look this morning and they even class their "sideswipe" area as Premium now, sideswipe tend to be photos / comments that are sent into them of dumb things like peoples parking.



Wow. Their website redesign was enough of a barrier to stop me reading that, even without having to pay for it.

Good luck to them.

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  #2229157 2-May-2019 08:42
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MichaelNZ:

I'm not normally one for unbridled sarcasim


Lol, classic.

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  #2229169 2-May-2019 09:00
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I don't mind them going premium but their site is unuseable now.

Every other article is premium and there is no way I can see to just see the free news.

I'm out on the herald, it'll just be radio NZ from now on.

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  #2229177 2-May-2019 09:08
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Their so-called 'paywall' is a joke. A badly-made fence is usually an indicator of low value on the other side.

 

 





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  #2229183 2-May-2019 09:16
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So far I am a huge fan of the move to Paywall and the new Premium Content!

 

 

 

Despite the dismal standard of "content", the reliance on Click-Baiting formats and the complete lack of real journalism on the Herald website, I continued to visit on the regular - much as one repeatedly tongues an infected tooth to verify that it does indeed still hurt like hell.

 

Now 90% of the site seems to have the shiny new "Premium" badge on it, my compulsion to visit has reduced considerably and at this rate, I will be Herald-free by the end of the week.

 

Well Done and thank you NZH!

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #2229250 2-May-2019 10:55
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Apparently the last time I logged into GZ and posted, rather than just lurk, was November 2017. I wanted to thank people in this thread for their recommendations as to alternative news sources other than NZ Herald, which after it's swap to premium I dropped immediately upon discovering it. I won't miss the poor quality stories or clickbait articles, but I will miss the opinion pieces - well most of them.





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  #2229291 2-May-2019 11:09
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I have no problem paying for content - I pay for the Washington Post, Guardian and Wired. I have a problem with paying for low quality content. If there's a cost, the editorial needs to be held at even higher standards than before.





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