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#1954756 10-Feb-2018 12:48

Rikkitic:
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-to-set-deadly-traps-inside-your-house-to-defend-against-burglars

It's concerning US law, but still an interesting read.

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#1954757 10-Feb-2018 12:48

On the topic of thief traps, here's another persons attempt - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/guard-given-electric-shock-by-wired-car-drivers-anti-theft-measure-went-too-far-1424714.html

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#1954767 10-Feb-2018 12:57

zxspectrum:

On the topic of thief traps, here's another persons attempt - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/guard-given-electric-shock-by-wired-car-drivers-anti-theft-measure-went-too-far-1424714.html

I see that it's not just the Herald and Stuff that don't bother with proofreading; it took me a moment to realise that "pounds 17000" meant "£17000"!

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#1954799 10-Feb-2018 13:39

Behodar:

I see that it's not just the Herald and Stuff that don't bother with proofreading; it took me a moment to realise that "pounds 17000" meant "£17000"!

LoL. Yes, I think the decline in reporting standards is a worldwide phenomenon.

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#1954805 10-Feb-2018 13:54

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-01-04/news/9201010821_1_bottles-homemade-liquor-prosecutors

"Photographers sometimes keep photo chemicals in used liquor bottles"

Someone could also use left over liquor bottles to store anything. But keep it locked up to prevent "foreseeable" accidents.

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#1954808 10-Feb-2018 14:01

cruxis:
After being burgled When I go away on holiday now, I leave a Bottle of Jim Bean Black locked in a glass cabinet next to my TV, that also happens to be 1/2 anti freeze. Alcohol is one of the most likely item to be stolen so Maybe the police can bust them turning up at hospital with organ failure.

Stolen goods are often passed on to an innocent person who is unaware of the origin, consumed by unrelated people at teen parties etc.

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#1954810 10-Feb-2018 14:08

The attempts to rationalise this behaviour are as bad as the behaviour itself. Mixing anti-freeze, which is poisonous, with alcohol, disguises the presence of the anti-freeze. It is designed to kill or seriously injure. There is no excuse for that.

Putting it in a place (locked in a glass cabinet) that creates the impression that it is 'just' alcohol, only makes it worse. This is a trap designed to seriously harm someone. It is silly, stupid, and evil. Think about it again.

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#1954828 10-Feb-2018 14:55

Crimes Act, s 200, Poisoning with intent

Crimes Act, s 202, Setting traps, etc

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#1954829 10-Feb-2018 15:02

Only a week ago someone prosecuted for poisoning

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11986785

Two wrongs do not make a right. At least the guy stealing your TV is only taking property - intentionally harming a person is taking wrong to a whole new level.

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#1954830 10-Feb-2018 15:12

Even though this is the answer to this thread, I just couldn't let you have the last word and stop this discussion.

froob: Crimes Act, s 200, Poisoning with intent

OK, so no setting of poison traps, not even to induce diarrhoea

froob: Crimes Act, s 202, Setting traps, etc

WOW, sound like even setting gazillion mouse traps like in cartoons has a sentence of max 3 years.

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#1954847 10-Feb-2018 15:43

froob: Crimes Act, s 200, Poisoning with intent

Crimes Act, s 202, Setting traps, etc

This makes it perfectly clear. Note there is no exception just because the trap is in your home.

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#1954849 10-Feb-2018 15:48

What I find most disturbing about this thread is that the poisoned alcohol post got nine +1's. Sadly, vigilantism is alive and well on Geekzone.

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#1954853 10-Feb-2018 15:58

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Geektastic:

They certainly shouldn't be able to - if you get munted whilst undertaking a house invasion, that should be entirely tough luck on you for being a criminal, but I suspect that in NZ the criminal will win out over the home owner in such a scenario.

Yeah cos killing someone trying to nick my TV is completely fair and proportionate :/

PS: And for the record I have suffered from about 6 different burglaries in my life - so I know what it feels like to have my home invaded and stuff taken - but talking about ending someone for it is just keyboard warrior bs.

This is where we differ. I don't care remotely about fairness to criminals.

I've been burgled twice and wouldn't have the slightest concern what happened to the scum who did it if it prevented them from doing it again.
If they don't like consequences perhaps they could, you know, not commit crimes.

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#1954855 10-Feb-2018 16:01

Rikkitic:
What I find most disturbing about this thread is that the poisoned alcohol post got nine +1's. Sadly, vigilantism is alive and well on Geekzone.

Vigilantism increases when police and law enforcement effectiveness decreases, at a guess.

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#1954856 10-Feb-2018 16:01

Rikkitic:
What I find most disturbing about this thread is that the poisoned alcohol post got nine +1's. Sadly, vigilantism is alive and well on Geekzone.

Vigilantism increases when police and law enforcement effectiveness decreases, at a guess.

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