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#3380439 4-Jun-2025 14:26

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Got a packet of Hellers American Hot dogs.

“Cooking Instructions: product must be cooked thoroughly before consumption”

Yes - they must be cooked thoroughly before eating - but that's done in the factory.

All they need at home is boiling so all that's being done is warming them up. I'm sure they are totally edible straight out of the pack.

They probably are; however cooking instructions should read “Place in boiling water for 5 minutes” or some such.

Having a section stating “cooking instructions” raises an expectation that something specifically related to how to cook them is required but missing.

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#3380443 4-Jun-2025 14:38

To a lot of people these days, reheating is cooking. 😊

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#3380452 4-Jun-2025 14:56

Behodar:

Funny you should say that. Several years ago I posted a picture of pre-cooked sausages (I think they were also Hellers) with that same statement. I then got called names and told I was an idiot (obviously this wasn't on Geekzone!) for interpreting "pre-cooked" as meaning they were already cooked.

To this day I'm not sure what I did wrong.

Just to play Devil's advocate:
pre /priː/ preposition
1. previous to; before.

Ergo, "pre-cooked" could be taken to mean "before cooked", i.e. raw.

However, I'm aware that for just about everyone (except for deliberate smart-alecs!):

pre-cook /priːˈkʊk/ verb
past tense: precooked; past participle: precooked
1. cook in advance

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#3380475 4-Jun-2025 16:41

Behodar:

Funny you should say that. Several years ago I posted a picture of pre-cooked sausages (I think they were also Hellers) with that same statement. I then got called names and told I was an idiot (obviously this wasn't on Geekzone!) for interpreting "pre-cooked" as meaning they were already cooked.

To this day I'm not sure what I did wrong.

In my dialect of English, "precooked" does mean that they are already cooked. "Uncooked" would be correct for something that is not already cooked.

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#3380477 4-Jun-2025 16:59

eracode:

Geektastic:

Got a packet of Hellers American Hot dogs.

“Cooking Instructions: product must be cooked thoroughly before consumption”

Yes - they must be cooked thoroughly before eating - but that's done in the factory.

All they need at home is boiling so all that's being done is warming them up. I'm sure they are totally edible straight out of the pack.

If the instruction says they must be cooked, then you need to cook them before eating... They don't put that on there as a joke.

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#3380480 4-Jun-2025 17:07

And that's why we're in this thread. They claim to be pre-cooked yet also say you need to cook them, which would indicate that they're not pre-cooked. It's a paradox.

In reality I suspect they're just trying to cover themselves, a bit like how pre-washed vegetables sometimes say to wash them.

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#3380541 4-Jun-2025 19:10

I recall seeing people eating saveloys out of the bag. It's not a good idea imo. MPI seems to agree:

MPI: it can be noted that several meat products have a high relative risk in the North American population, with the pâté/meat spread, deli meats and non-reheated frankfurter categories ranking in the top five predictive relative risks for listeriosis. Frankfurters are a food that is meant to be eaten only after heating, but in the US it is customary for some people not to cook them prior to consumption

Plain english translation of Kiwi scientist: "those darn crazy Americans!"

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#3380638 5-Jun-2025 09:29

door to door scalesman. I think I'd prefer a bear, an ursa major minor inconvenience

Too close for comfort: Gators seen scratching and knocking on front doors of 3 Florida homes

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#3380727 5-Jun-2025 13:10

Our biggest surprises at the door are Wetas. Phew.

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#3380818 5-Jun-2025 17:08

This is a bit of a long one, but I felt like sharing the pain 😁

At work, we've recently replaced an old document management system with a "new and improved" one. It's been a bit of a ride.

The old system had a unique ID for each file. Create or upload a file, and it gets an ID. Use that ID to jump straight to that file. Simple. The new system has a field called Legacy ID, and all the existing IDs were imported. We soon found that in the new system, if you duplicate a file, then it helpfully gives it the same Legacy ID. If you export a file and import it again (with a different name, into a different folder) then it still gives it the same Legacy ID (I was never able to track down how that actually worked). If you then try to search by ID then it returns all the documents with that ID... unless you're using the API, in which case it'll return whichever it happened to find first.

If you import a .docx file then immediately export it again, then compare the input with the output via a hex editor, you'll find that the file has changed. As soon as you import a .docx it goes and puts "[system] was here" metadata inside it. Except it doesn't do it well. The resulting file can be opened in Word, but if you try to manipulate it by using Microsoft's Office (OOXML) SDK then it'll tell you the file is corrupt and will refuse to touch it.

Then we have filenames. The "old and inferior" system allowed pretty much anything. We have a number of documents named using property addresses. The old system was perfectly happy with "2/6 O'Reilly St". The new one refuses to allow a slash and won't let you create a file with that name. The business decides to use a hyphen instead of a slash. But then we move onto another category of issue: filenames that the system accepts, but that don't actually work. "2-6 O'Reilly St" can be created, but returns a "folder not found" message when you try to open it. Excuse me? Folder not found? That's right: although the folder is perfectly fine (and other files within the same folder can be opened successfully), the presence of an apostrophe in the filename causes it to think the folder doesn't exist.

I wondered whether we could work around the issue by using a right single quote (’) instead of an apostrophe ('). Does that help? Sort of: the error message progressed to "file not found". We then made a decision to replace apostrophes with spaces.

Then someone created a file named "5 Weka St — Additional Information". Note the use of an em dash (—) rather than a hyphen (-). Does this one work? Yes! Well, almost. You can create a file with that name, you can open it, and you can edit it. As long as you're using the vendor-provided UI. If you try to access it using the API then it comes back as "5 Weka St ? Additional Information" and now we're back in File Not Found territory again.

There's a "Sync" button on the toolbar. If you haven't configured somewhere for it to sync to then clicking this will sync with nothing and delete all the files out of the folder. We asked the vendor whether there was a way to disable this, and they supplied a script to remove the button. IT foolishly believed them and ran it in production without testing (this is its whole own can of worms). It successfully got rid of the Sync button... along with the rest of the toolbar.

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#3382329 9-Jun-2025 23:31

Another one from the land of the freedumb and home of the bravely stupid...

NBC News: ICE agents mistakenly detain U.S. marshal in Arizona

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#3382333 9-Jun-2025 23:52

Rubber-bulleting two different journalists in one day, too.

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#3382369 10-Jun-2025 08:52

Behodar:

If you're not in an enterprise dev job, then look at all the fun you're missing out on!

The boondoggles are truly incredible...

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#3382574 10-Jun-2025 18:55

SomeoneSomewhere:

Rubber-bulleting two different journalists in one day, too.

Got to stop independent reporting...?

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#3383089 12-Jun-2025 10:35

Since I have accepted the insanity and lack of education of crazy people, I no longer have anything to contribute in this section. On the contrary - I'm doubly happy about every normal, clear-headed person I meet. 😁

Qui nihil scit, omnia credere debet.
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