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#581427 14-Feb-2012 16:38

cgrew:
KiwiNZ: I think I have answered this , but OK....

They are both in their respective entirety garbage.

That is on a par with the videos. But at least it's tune with the thread subject matter.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#581435 14-Feb-2012 16:51

cgrew:
gzt:
cgrew:
gzt: Einstein was especially good at that part.

Thanks. He used to marvel at things that a lot of modern scientists today don't really acknowledge.

I had not heard that anywhere else. For instance?

The existance of something that goes beyond worldly knowledge, he often marvelled at the idea of the universe being created but not by a personal God as such. He was a Pantheist so to speak.

Einstein himself denied being a pantheist but I agree with you that it is a reasonable description of his views.

But - pantheism (aka the totality of everything) in the Einstein-ian sense and similar outlooks are not at all uncommon among present day scientists.

[Edit: quoting Einstein]

"If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it"

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#581437 14-Feb-2012 16:56

Social networking could be the precursor to the RFID chip.

After all whats said on facebook stays on facebook.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-qgwTvnGes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3hu3iG8B2g

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#581438 14-Feb-2012 16:58

Seriously, do you believe in every single piece some nutcase posts on YouTube or any obscure website? How to you measure these (unknown/obscure) people's credibility?

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#581452 14-Feb-2012 17:16

cgrew: Social networking could be the precursor to the RFID chip.

After all whats said on facebook stays on facebook.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-qgwTvnGes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3hu3iG8B2g

You walk down the street and you are risking your privacy
You drive a car you risk your privacy, after all who really has access to the vehicle registration numbers?
Catch a plane, call a Taxi, use Eftpos.

Camera's to the left you,
Camera's to the right of you.
Camera's in front of you.
Click and record.

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#581455 14-Feb-2012 17:21

freitasm: Seriously, do you believe in every single piece some nutcase posts on YouTube or any obscure website? How to you measure these (unknown/obscure) people's credibility?

No? Where have I stated that I believe? I'm merely trying to question the very nature of humanity in the 21st century.

You can't deny that humanity is primarily technology driven & not too mention very knowledgable of the world on a social level. Also it has become very apparent the impact entertainment media (especially MTV) has had on society/adolescents.

Here's an interesting article on the subject:

It’s hard to believe it’s been eight years since Janet Jackson’s ‘Nipplegate’ and the Superbowl has been seriously lacking a good scandal until now.

Yes we all love a spot of moral outrage and thanks to naughty M.I.A’s, ahem, ‘finger malfunction’ during Grand High Priestess Madge’s Egyptian-Greco-Roman Superbowl spectacle, under the terms of M.I.A’s contract, she now faces a fine to the tune of hundreds of thousands levied by the United States’ Federal Communications Commission. Ouch.

Given the track was mimed and pre-recorded, evil side-eyes should be thrown at other parties for allowing this to happen rather than M.I.A herself. In a playground-esque blame game of ‘I didn’t do it, he did!’ the NFL finger-pointed at NBC, “The NFL hired the talent and produced the half-time show,” they cried! Whilst NBC are framing the NFL, “There was a failure in NBC’s delay system. The obscene gesture in the performance was completely inappropriate, very disappointing, and we apologise.”

M.I.A’s camp just blamed nerves. Right. Cue Operation Damage Control.

Sure the bird-flip was pretty ill-judged – but when you book a provocative performer like M.I.A what did they expect? Given the utter degeneration and hyper-sexualisation of our current crop of female pop performers (Rihanna, Katy Perry, Gaga et al - you know who you are) in terms of debasing, offensive, inappropriate performances, M.I.A.’s middle-finger salute was little more than a cheeky nose-thumbing.

Now don’t panic, I’m not gonna get all Daily Mail on your a*# wailing, “Won’t somebody please think of the children??” I’m no prude right-winger but this moral outcry over a daft rebellious gesture serves only to illustrate how Western society’s collective moral compass is seriously askew. If we can froth and pant and seethe over a one second gesture yet simultaneously, gluttonously, ravenously consume toxic pop imagery damaging to impressionable young girls then I have to wonder what the hell is up?

The Parents Television Council accused the NFL of booking “performers who have based their careers on shock, profanity and titillation. Either the NFL and NBC will take immediate steps to hold those accountable for this offensive material in front of a hundred million Americans, or they will feebly sit back and do nothing.”

I do wonder, how many of it’s members have taken their daughter to a Nicki Minaj concert.

The recipe for an archetypal MTV music video now goes a little something like this: take one large slice of hooker-ish attire, mix throughly with a dollop of gyrating and crotch-flashing, add a splash of ghetto-chic, serve it up with S&M overtones and optionally season well with some dark, satanic symbology thrown in for good measure. Yummy!

A new pop star’s contract is more Faustian pact than record deal and it frightens me how dumbed-down and culturally-opiated the West has become to accept this as the norm. Music videos are a hypnotic portal of lethal influence: the current pop landscape is awash with over-sexualisation, dehumanisation/transhuman, mutilation/ritual and militarization /police state themes. Clever purposeful programming to debase and disassociate us from social norms.

The age-old retort of, “It’s not the pop star’s fault it’s the parents for letting them see it” is moot. That there should be parental responsibility is not in doubt – it goes without saying – but is it possible for parents to police the TV, internet, radio and magazine stands at all times? I think not. This imagery is omnipresent, pervasive and corrosive whichever way you look.

Anyway, all the above aside, Madge’s turgid Gimme All Your Luvin’ song was frankly more offensive than M.I.A’s mid-finger-flip. Madonna’s talent has always lied in hijacking a subculture before it permeates the mainstream and intelligently bringing it into our consciousness. For all her commendable gymnastic ability (homegirl sure worked those moves) her last few albums have been a case of idly rent-an-already-huge-star rather than appropriating a bubbling-under trend making it your own. It’s literally a case of cool-by-association ‘If I can’t beat ‘em nowadays, I may as well rope ‘em in to make me cred.’ Madge now appears more lazy coat-tail rider than the radical pop-pioneer she once was.

Maybe she only has herself to blame? After all, she flaunted those overtly sexual vibes in a pop arena first (albeit with subversion and wit) thus opening the floodgates for the new blood to follow, pushing her sexual agenda – both worryingly and potentially – to the point of no return.

- Source: Huffington Post

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#581459 14-Feb-2012 17:23

That's it. I'm out of here.

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#581460 14-Feb-2012 17:25

Elvis had a big impact in the 60's, Beethoven , Mozart had big impacts in their respective times. MTV has no more influence than Radio did in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s .

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#581464 14-Feb-2012 17:28

@cgrew with respect I think you need to broaden your reading and stop seeing Blogs and Youtube as sources of "fact".

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#581553 14-Feb-2012 20:56

Alternatively: watch Star Trek: Voyager: Season 6: Episode 9, from beginning to end.

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#581554 14-Feb-2012 20:58

So its A. OK. to sell GMO milk but the raw milk that people have drunk for thousands of years is suddenly unsafe.

"The FDA won its two-year fight to shut down an Amish farmer who was selling fresh raw milk to eager consumers in the Washington, D.C., region after a judge this month banned Daniel Allgyer from selling his milk across state lines and he told his customers he would shut down his farm altogether."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/13/feds-shut-down-amish-farm-selling-fresh-milk/

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#581563 14-Feb-2012 21:25

1. We don't drink milk from USA
2. Our Milk is Pasteurized and has been so for many years
3. The is no way I am drinking non-pasteurized milk.

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#581564 14-Feb-2012 21:26

KiwiNZ: 1. We don't drink milk from USA
2. Our Milk is Pasteurized and has been so for many years
3. The is no way I am drinking non-pasteurized milk.

1. You think I don't know that? :-/
2 & 3. I'm still alive.

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#581602 14-Feb-2012 23:00

cgrew:
You can't deny that humanity is primarily technology driven & not too mention very knowledgable of the world on a social level. Also it has become very apparent the impact entertainment media (especially MTV) has had on society/adolescents.

If being part of society is too vexing you may choose to opt out.....

Since it's has been mankind's inquisitorial nature and inventiveness that has got us all this far, I'm happy to keep rolling with it. The human race has an innate ability to rescue it's self from the bottom of the cliff despite all the placard wavers, doom sayers, and no chancers at the top saying 'don't jump!'

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#581618 15-Feb-2012 03:29

Vaguely in keeping with the subject, here's a story I can't take my eyes away from.

Italian guy says that he has discovered a way to transmutate Nickel to Copper. At room temperature, using a chemical cocktail that at the moment is secret. This guy has been prosecuted for various documented crimes in the past. The transmutation results in the generation of heat, which is the big deal here. He's saying that you will be able to buy a heat generator that is portable, cheap and you can have low cost heat soon, maybe this year.

99% of the physics community don't believe him. Why is he promoting his yet to be sold product? It's not a scam because he hasn't sold anything yet. He may be deluding himself, and the effect isn't real. Maybe his calculations are out by a factor of 10, and a decimal point is in the wrong place.

My opinion is that there is 1% chance that this effect is real, 39% that he's made a mistake in his calculations, 40% that it's a scam, and 20% that he has a terminal disease and wants to go out with big fan fare, and people lamenting his loss, and the loss of his "free energy" tech.

He's had about 10,000 advance orders (no deposit) so far. Apparently there is a robotic factory being built somewhere to make the machines. He won't let anyone test his prototypes.

If you think it sounds too weird to be real, you're right.

Just when you thought that was it, along comes a company in Greece that says it is about to build machines that do the same thing. They may have stolen the technology, based on various rumours. They have offered qualified people/organisations (say, university physics departments) the ability to test their design. They are in negotiations with manufacturers around the world.

You can follow the story here http://www.e-catworld.com/ the site allows comments, and there seem to be a good number of skeptics to keep things sane.

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