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#2009984 8-May-2018 14:04

Rikkitic: I also don’t much like the idea that I have been included in their database without being asked or having specifically given permission.

I bought something using Trade Me the other day and the seller took this as free licence to add me to their mailing list.

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#2009988 8-May-2018 14:10

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Coil:

When your on the phone with a client and they say your name in every sentence or question. Drives me MAD.
'Isn't that right Tim, Yes Tim, Yes"

The origin of that probably goes back to Dale Carnegie:

Remember that a person's name is, to that person, the sweetest and most important sound in any language. "The average person is more interested in their own name than in all the other names in the world put together." People love their names so much that they will often donate large amounts of money just to have a building named after themselves. We can make people feel extremely valued and important by remembering their name.

And as a memory training trick - to help put names to faces - that's what you should do (repeat their name several times in conversation).

That said, I'm buggered if I know why that should be used on the telephone, it's probably just a habit they picked up after attending some training seminar.

Maybe its because I hate the name Tim with a passion, No idea why my parents called me it. I don't have a nickname, just get called Tim. Hate it through and throughout.

@networkn, please elaborate on joke :) You got me curious.

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#2009990 8-May-2018 14:12

I am aware of the sign-up procedure but that is BS since you are not given any alternative. I am not referring to Tripadvisor. Often, even if you try to book directly with a particular hotel or airline, you are redirected to a booking site and have no other option if you want to use that particular hotel or airline (or whatever). Since they now nearly all do this, it means in effect that you have no other option and that's why the T&C are BS.

If I use such a service, I am not signing up for their spam. I am signing up for the service. It is ridiculous that you can't have one without the other. I just went through this with one such operator (not Tripadvisor). Legitimate ones let you unsubscribe from their unwanted mailings, but I discovered that even doing that did not remove my details from their database. I had to insist on that separately. They readily did what I requested, so no complaints there, but why should they retain my details in the first place? They have no business doing that. It makes me vulnerable to any future on-selling or hacking. Just because you happen to be in business or you run a company does not give you special rights to trample roughshod over social norms and polite behaviour. My personal details belong to me. They are not there for the taking.

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#2009997 8-May-2018 14:23

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I am aware of the sign-up procedure but that is BS since you are not given any alternative. I am not referring to Tripadvisor. Often, even if you try to book directly with a particular hotel or airline, you are redirected to a booking site and have no other option if you want to use that particular hotel or airline (or whatever). Since they now nearly all do this, it means in effect that you have no other option and that's why the T&C are BS.

If I use such a service, I am not signing up for their spam. I am signing up for the service. It is ridiculous that you can't have one without the other. I just went through this with one such operator (not Tripadvisor). Legitimate ones let you unsubscribe from their unwanted mailings, but I discovered that even doing that did not remove my details from their database. I had to insist on that separately. They readily did what I requested, so no complaints there, but why should they retain my details in the first place? They have no business doing that. It makes me vulnerable to any future on-selling or hacking. Just because you happen to be in business or you run a company does not give you special rights to trample roughshod over social norms and polite behaviour. My personal details belong to me. They are not there for the taking.

It's not BS. Why should they offer you an alternative? You are confusing your email preferences from your account. Having an account doesn't mean you have an email subscription necessarily, but usually does. Removing your eamil subscription should not remove your account, why should it? If you stop wanting marketing from your bank, do you expect them to close all your accounts and require repayment of every loan? No. I think your understanding, rather than the system is what's broken here. I think you need to reset your expectations, otherwise you will spend a LOT of time angry over something that is as normal as the sun coming up in the morning. Most providers will allow you to unsubscribe from their email sendings, it's a legal obligation actually, click the link. Won't close your account, nor should it.

As for who owns your data, good luck with that argument. They should not retain your data after you close your account, but firms have privacy policies that usually encompass this. I think you should read the T&C of the sites you sign up for, and the privacy agreements, to save yourself a load of grief.

Having said that, you are going to struggle to find sites anywhere that meet your (IMO unreasonable) expectations, esp if use of those sites and services, is "free". There is a saying, if the service cost you nothing, YOU are the payment (Product).

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#2009998 8-May-2018 14:25

Coil:

Maybe its because I hate the name Tim with a passion, No idea why my parents called me it. I don't have a nickname, just get called Tim. Hate it through and throughout.

@networkn, please elaborate on joke :) You got me curious.

I like Tim as a name, there are MUCH worse I can assure you. At least people won't often misspell or mispronounce it.

Not sure how to explain the joke, it either worked for you or it didn't :)

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#2010000 8-May-2018 14:32

Rikkitic:

You see the name-using thing in every interview with a politician. Some marketing psychologists started putting this into their training materials years ago. Addressing someone by their name makes them feel all warm and fuzzy so they (hopefully) won't ask such hostile questions or they will give you lots of money.

From my experience interviewing some extremely tricky people in very tense situations especially some with large patches on their jackets using their name in the interview multiple times absolutely works.

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#2010006 8-May-2018 14:38

networkn:

Coil:

Maybe its because I hate the name Tim with a passion, No idea why my parents called me it. I don't have a nickname, just get called Tim. Hate it through and throughout.

@networkn, please elaborate on joke :) You got me curious.

I like Tim as a name, there are MUCH worse I can assure you. At least people won't often misspell or mispronounce it.

Not sure how to explain the joke, it either worked for you or it didn't :)

I have Australian family and I get they call me Team (Accent)! IDK, I just find it a little basic. My sister got a generic German name but at least it is not common place.

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#2010007 8-May-2018 14:40

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I have Australian family and I get they call me Team (Accent)! IDK, I just find it a little basic. My sister got a generic German name but at least it is not common place.

/me shrugs, each to their own, I know plenty of people who would kill someone for a simple easy to spell and say name.

I wanted to call my first born Tim, but my wife wanted something with 2 syllables minimum.

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#2010009 8-May-2018 14:44

Coil:

Fred99:

Coil:

When your on the phone with a client and they say your name in every sentence or question. Drives me MAD.
'Isn't that right Tim, Yes Tim, Yes"

The origin of that probably goes back to Dale Carnegie:

Remember that a person's name is, to that person, the sweetest and most important sound in any language. "The average person is more interested in their own name than in all the other names in the world put together." People love their names so much that they will often donate large amounts of money just to have a building named after themselves. We can make people feel extremely valued and important by remembering their name.

And as a memory training trick - to help put names to faces - that's what you should do (repeat their name several times in conversation).

That said, I'm buggered if I know why that should be used on the telephone, it's probably just a habit they picked up after attending some training seminar.

Maybe its because I hate the name Tim with a passion, No idea why my parents called me it. I don't have a nickname, just get called Tim. Hate it through and throughout.

@networkn, please elaborate on joke :) You got me curious.

My eldest son didn't like the first name we gave him so he changed it by deed poll. Change your name to something you think fits

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#2010010 8-May-2018 14:44

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It's not BS. Why should they offer you an alternative? You are confusing your email preferences from your account. Having an account doesn't mean you have an email subscription necessarily, but usually does. Removing your eamil subscription should not remove your account, why should it? If you stop wanting marketing from your bank, do you expect them to close all your accounts and require repayment of every loan? No. I think your understanding, rather than the system is what's broken here. I think you need to reset your expectations, otherwise you will spend a LOT of time angry over something that is as normal as the sun coming up in the morning. Most providers will allow you to unsubscribe from their email sendings, it's a legal obligation actually, click the link. Won't close your account, nor should it.

As for who owns your data, good luck with that argument. They should not retain your data after you close your account, but firms have privacy policies that usually encompass this. I think you should read the T&C of the sites you sign up for, and the privacy agreements, to save yourself a load of grief.

Having said that, you are going to struggle to find sites anywhere that meet your (IMO unreasonable) expectations, esp if use of those sites and services, is "free". There is a saying, if the service cost you nothing, YOU are the payment (Product).

If you would think about what you are saying, even for a moment, you would realise how illogical it is. I did not ask for an 'account' with the operator in question. I do not want one. It can't be compared to a bank because it has no value of mine and I didn't ask for it and I don't want it.

It is the system that is broken. Cambridge Analytica and Facebook are proof enough of that. The days of anonymous unbridled data collection are over. You just don't know it yet.

I did not make use of any service, free or otherwise. I booked a ticket on an airline site, for which I paid the full price. The airline site made the booking through the booking site. It had nothing to do with me. It is between the airline and the booking site. It is not a question of benefiting from a 'free' service. I paid for the damned ticket and you are purposely conflating things to try to make your case.

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#2010033 8-May-2018 14:54

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I have Australian family and I get they call me Team (Accent)! IDK, I just find it a little basic. My sister got a generic German name but at least it is not common place.

Living in NZ now I would take Tim over my own name - Jarle - any day.

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#2010041 8-May-2018 15:02

Went to a conference. Noticed for the first time how much crap is made for these things, mostly non recycleable. Even the metal clips to hold the tags on and the lanyard made of a material that won't decompose for like 1000 years or more.

I do understand why, because it's cheap, and ultimately if they did away with it, the cost of attending would likely skyrocket, but still made me a little uncomfortable.

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#2010043 8-May-2018 15:03

Cherish the difference. Jarle is a cool name.

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#2010052 8-May-2018 15:16

Rikkitic:

If you would think about what you are saying, even for a moment, you would realise how illogical it is. I did not ask for an 'account' with the operator in question. I do not want one. It can't be compared to a bank because it has no value of mine and I didn't ask for it and I don't want it.

It is the system that is broken. Cambridge Analytica and Facebook are proof enough of that. The days of anonymous unbridled data collection are over. You just don't know it yet.

I did not make use of any service, free or otherwise. I booked a ticket on an airline site, for which I paid the full price. The airline site made the booking through the booking site. It had nothing to do with me. It is between the airline and the booking site. It is not a question of benefiting from a 'free' service. I paid for the damned ticket and you are purposely conflating things to try to make your case.

I am really tired of your snotty tone, so I am done politely trying to explain the reason for things like this in an effort to help you feel better. I was drawing parallels etc rather than talking about your specific instance. Everything you have an issue with is explained in the T&C's you accepted and Privacy policies.

But by all means, believe what you want, it's no skin off my nose if you want to feel annoyed at something, have at it.

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#2010055 8-May-2018 15:21

Reading 10 messages in a thread to find one that is relevant to the title.

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