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#2137539 30-Nov-2018 21:42

blakamin:

Admit it, Mike, you just don't like being proven wrong.

Yes yes yes! Mike, you are wrong about this. Not a little bit. Completely. Just admit it and move on.

I don't know what model of car it was. My dad didn't tell me or I don't remember. It doesn't matter. You can pull this trick with any model of that era. Ignition off, car moving in gear, pistons go up and down, fuel get pushed through valves out exhaust, ignition on, big boom. Kids have done this for years. I did. My friends did. My dad did. End of story.

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#2137540 30-Nov-2018 21:44

Mrs, who is 8 years younger than me, just said her 1st boyfriend used to do it all the time in his mums early commodore, in the 90s.

She thought everyone did it.

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#2137590 1-Dec-2018 00:12

V8 landrovers would do it incredibly easily - we called it "key-bangers".

I know someone who drove around Aramoana doing them late one night, not long after the shootings there - you can imagine how popular he was.

Oh and Mike - V8 Landrovers had electric fuel pumps...

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#2137611 1-Dec-2018 07:56

blakamin:

Mrs, who is 8 years younger than me, just said her 1st boyfriend used to do it all the time in his mums early commodore, in the 90s.

She thought everyone did it.

Yep, when I did my time at Motorcorp in the 80's the Mini's, Morries etc were perfect for doing the big backfire going downhill in the main street of Howick - made a lot of people jump.

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#2137613 1-Dec-2018 08:04

blakamin:

Mrs, who is 8 years younger than me, just said her 1st boyfriend used to do it all the time in his mums early commodore, in the 90s.

She thought everyone did it.

If ever there was a time when quoting would have been a good idea. Taken out of context, this may paint a different picture of your Mrs than you were intending.

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#2137624 1-Dec-2018 08:40

blakamin:
MikeB4:

There is a huge difference between a HQ or Commodore and a 1930s car with low pressure fuel systems, low compression engines, dodgy ignition but yeah I don't really care.

Rubbish! You can put your thumb over the fuel hose from a mechanical holden fuel pump and stop it spraying everywhere!

And it has NOTHING TO DO WITH FUEL PRESSURE. It has to do with fuel build up. It depends how long you do it and how far the fuel gets. Once you provide spark again... BOOM!!!

Admit it, Mike, you just don't like being proven wrong.

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Edit: also works in FX (48/215.. 1948), FJ, EK, FB, EH, EJ, HD, HR, HK, T, G, LC, LJ, LH, LX, UC, VB, VC, VH, VK... You want a list of Fords too? Chrysler?

The ones I listed were ones with steering locks.

I am not disputing that backfires are possible they are and I have done it what I am disputing and will call BS on is a 1930s car probably 1920s that could do to the level of lifting the floor and blowing the exhaust system out the back of the vehicle, give me a friggin break.

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#2137627 1-Dec-2018 09:04

When you answer the phone and it just goes "bip-bip-bip" and ends the call. I'd love to know what causes this.

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#2137634 1-Dec-2018 09:51

Behodar:

When you answer the phone and it just goes "bip-bip-bip" and ends the call. I'd love to know what causes this.

Possibly VoIP calls. I've noticed when using an analogue phone adaptor that if the caller hangs up the ringing at the remote end doesn't stop immediately. Not sure if there is a similar signalling delay with purely digital systems.

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#2137635 1-Dec-2018 09:52

That's a good point; it was my dad calling me today and he's definitely on VoIP!

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#2137728 1-Dec-2018 12:09

MikeB4:

I am not disputing that backfires are possible they are and I have done it what I am disputing and will call BS on is a 1930s car probably 1920s that could do to the level of lifting the floor and blowing the exhaust system out the back of the vehicle, give me a friggin break.

This started as a simple dispute of facts but now I am angry. Let me start with the things you have said here. First, you tried to deny that a backfire as described was possible at all due to your lack of understanding of how car engines work:

"@Rikkitic If the ignition was off how did the fuel get delivered to the Carb? The fuel pump in the tank would not be working. Also it fuel was being delivered to the cylinders ignition would be difficult due to flooding and a mixture to rich for combuation. However I maybe wrong I am dragging stuff out of the grey matter from many moons ago."

Yes, you are wrong and you should have left it there. Although electric fuel pumps were invented in the 1920s, few production cars had them until the 1960s or later. As others here have also pointed out, most fuel pumps were mechanical and the ones of the 1930s and earlier almost certainly would have been. Your statement seems to assume all fuel pumps were electric. That is based on ignorance, like the rest of your argument.

Also, as I already explained, flooded engines start perfectly well if the car is rolling at speed. That is the whole point. That is how exhaust backfires are produced. Others here have also pointed that out. The fuel does not simply accumulate in the cylinders. It gets pushed through to the exhaust system, which is where the backfire occurs. Wikipedia: "A back-fire or backfire is combustion or an explosion produced by a running internal combustion engine that occurs in the air intake or exhaust system rather than inside the combustion chamber."

Here we go again: "@Rikkitic that woud depend on the model of car. Many carburetor supplied vehicles had electric pumps at the tank. As for starting hmm you said he was travelling along a street, I assumed not a hill. To deliver enough fuel to cause a detonation that lifted the floor and removed the exhaust pipe would require a lot of fuel and an awfull lot of air. Starting would seem to be a very old vehicle in those conditions would be very difficult if not impossible. It sounds like "oh the tales some father tell their kids" kinda like the ones about the massive fish that always got away."

First, many carburetor vehicles did NOT have electric pumps at the tank. This is mainly an aftermarket addition. Second, my father told me he was driving on a street in town. It may or may not have been on a hill. I don't recall him saying. I would point out, though, that many towns do have hills. Think of Dunedin, or Wellington. In any case he was moving at speed and turned off the ignition with the car in gear. That is how you do it. There was plenty of momentum to accumulate fuel.

I searched for examples of exhaust system damage resulting from backfires and found many anecdotal accounts. Here is one: "I used to make mega back-fires as a kid,* Coasting in to town down a hill, kill the engine but leave in gear, (standard) then turn the key on. Did that once in a Datson P/U, After I split the muffler from end to end and almosted lifted the bed off the truck I quit that. Never hurt the engine."

Being wrong is one thing, even being wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence. I don't know why you can't accept it in this case but that doesn't matter. What does matter is you calling my father, whom you never met, a bald-faced liar. I find that insulting and offensive, especially as it is based on nothing more than your arrogant presumptions about how cars work. For example: "There is a huge difference between a HQ or Commodore and a 1930s car with low pressure fuel systems, low compression engines, dodgy ignition but yeah I don't really care." Don't care, don't know, just petulent and pompous. I expect an apology.

Since you can't seem to let this go, here is another quote and reference:

"In 1993, the Ford 5.0-liter used an electric fuel pump because it could push the 40, 50, or 60 psi needed to pressurize the fuel rails and fuel injectors. But we're going to fuel this engine with a carburetor that only needs about 5 psi. Period-correct carbureted engines do not use electric fuel pumps because too much pressure can overfill the float bowls and blow the delicate little brass and rubber fuel valves. Yes, fuel pressure regulators solve this problem. Yes, modern mechanical fuel pumps need regulators too because they are more efficient (our mechanical pump runs at 8 psi). But it's also a style thing. Running a mechanical fuel pump allows you to make friends with all those old-timey purists and their big mustaches. You instantly become a member of a very pedantic club."

* And don't give me crap about that example not being a 1930s car. Every assertion you have made here is BS. You keep pulling back trying to wriggle out of it but you are wrong in every detail. Get over it.

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#2137943 1-Dec-2018 21:52

Deleted the last post. Be nice.

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#2137945 1-Dec-2018 21:53

Silence. Reigns.

Sometimes I just sit and think. Other times I just sit.

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#2137969 1-Dec-2018 23:26

Virtue signalling presenters on radio.

A certain virtue signalling Maestro RNZ presenter in the afternoon, in particular, irritates me simply by getting up in the morning now.

This week he interviewed a very learned specialist in speech defects and conditions about something I had never heard of, called “vocal fry”.

It happened that the study the learned gentleman had done had been in relation to the condition in women and how common it was etc. The reason for that was given in the interview.

However, the aforementioned ......hat of a presenter could not resist an attempt to suggest that the learned gentleman was “trying to police the way women speak” and other similar nonsense, absolutely none of which was the case.

He has form - he does it several times a week and I now try not to listen to the show if I can manage it.

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#2137971 1-Dec-2018 23:41

Something small that annoys me? Liars, in threads, on GZ.

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#2138087 2-Dec-2018 12:22

Websites that give a phone-style interface even when used on the desktop. I realise that a lot of people use phones these days, but the site should adapt instead of looking like, well, this:

Especially given the content of the site, when you'd think that most serious visitors would be on a desktop.

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