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#2945924 24-Jul-2022 14:50

Rikkitic: So I sent a polite email bringing their attention to it. What is your objection to that?

But you said you sent “A Complaint”.

Did you complain, or just bring their attention to it? Complaint indicates some injury on your part.

It is dumb phraseology (in the ad) without a doubt, and there’s just an outside chance it has been done on purpose (for shock advertising) but to suggest it’s likely to cause the violent overthrow of a democratically elected entity is drawing a pretty long bow, don’t you think?

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#2945926 24-Jul-2022 14:54

Seems likely that one of the staff there is "having a bit of fun" with it. Probably needs to be told to pull their head in.

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#2945929 24-Jul-2022 15:01

Dingbatt:

But you said you sent “A Complaint”.

Did you complain, or just bring their attention to it? Complaint indicates some injury on your part.

It is dumb phraseology (in the ad) without a doubt, and there’s just an outside chance it has been done on purpose (for shock advertising) but to suggest it’s likely to cause the violent overthrow of a democratically elected entity is drawing a pretty long bow, don’t you think?

Someone with access to their database has changed (at least) four products to contain the phrase "white power". That deserves a complaint, in order to bring their attention to the issue. It doesn't need democracy to be under threat, complaints can be over literally any issue! Who'd have known?

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#2945930 24-Jul-2022 15:02

Similar Braun issue for Colgate

https://www.chemistwarehouse.co.nz/buy/63414/colgate-360-optic-white-power-toothbrush-medium-with-vibrating-polishing-bristles

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#2945933 24-Jul-2022 15:04

Rikkitic:
I sent them a complaint. If I get a response, I will post here.

As @freitasm has pointed out, it's accidental, not deliberate. There's nothing there really to complain about, at most a suggestion that they might want to reconsider their choice of words.

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#2945934 24-Jul-2022 15:04

But wait there's more..

https://www.chemistwarehouse.co.nz/buy/63900/nivea-deodorant-for-men-black-and-white-invisible-power-roll-on-50ml

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#2945935 24-Jul-2022 15:06

neb:
Rikkitic:

I sent them a complaint. If I get a response, I will post here.

As @freitasm has pointed out, it's accidental, not deliberate. There's nothing there really to complain about, at most a suggestion that they might want to reconsider their choice of words.

Once is an accident, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.

Four times?

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#2945937 24-Jul-2022 15:08

Dingbatt:

But you said you sent “A Complaint”.

Did you complain, or just bring their attention to it? Complaint indicates some injury on your part.

It is dumb phraseology (in the ad) without a doubt, and there’s just an outside chance it has been done on purpose (for shock advertising) but to suggest it’s likely to cause the violent overthrow of a democratically elected entity is drawing a pretty long bow, don’t you think?

A complaint can also be an expression of dissatisfaction. I suppose I could have chosen a better word but I thought that one would cover it.

I was not suggesting a link between this wording and the insurrection. I was using an example to show the impact words can have, especially on those with certain cognitive shortcomings. There is a (hopefully) small but active white supremacy movement in this country that closely follows the American example. I can imagine people like this seizing on an otherwise innocuous promotional text for some kind of supposed legitimacy.

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#2945938 24-Jul-2022 15:09

mkissin:It doesn't need democracy to be under threat, complaints can be over literally any issue! Who'd have known?

But it wasn’t me who seemed to pull a reference to the Capitol Riots out of nowhere, and insert it in the discussion.

When you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Edit: And if the whole thing is a hack, does that make it funny, or sinister?

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#2945939 24-Jul-2022 15:16

Dingbatt:

mkissin:It doesn't need democracy to be under threat, complaints can be over literally any issue! Who'd have known?

But it wasn’t me who seemed to pull a reference to the Capitol Riots out of nowhere, and insert them in the discussion.

When you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Rikkitic was, I believe, just providing some context. A polite complaint is probably called for, as no, you can't have a little bigotry or racism, even as a treat. It should be called out every time. If not, it festers.

This is quite possibly innocent, but in case it's not it should be headed off.

Edit: I don't be think anybody is saying it's a hack? More likely someone tasked with data entry is having a go. Or, again, also possibly just an innocent error somewhere.

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#2945942 24-Jul-2022 15:24

@Dingbatt:

Rikkitic: So I sent a polite email bringing their attention to it. What is your objection to that?

But you said you sent “A Complaint”.

Did you complain, or just bring their attention to it? Complaint indicates some injury on your part.

It is dumb phraseology (in the ad) without a doubt, and there’s just an outside chance it has been done on purpose (for shock advertising) but to suggest it’s likely to cause the violent overthrow of a democratically elected entity is drawing a pretty long bow, don’t you think?

Just let it go.

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#2945943 24-Jul-2022 15:27

neb:
Rikkitic:

I sent them a complaint. If I get a response, I will post here.

As @freitasm has pointed out, it's accidental, not deliberate. There's nothing there really to complain about, at most a suggestion that they might want to reconsider their choice of word.

I didn't say it was accidental. I said Hanlon's razor says this could be stupidity rather than malice. But I found four occurrences of that so it could also be some prank, joke or plain racism being inject by some idiot.

A report to Warehouse was made, and I agree with that.

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#2945951 24-Jul-2022 16:05

freitasm:

Just let it go.

Yes.

Had already decided that was the best course of action.

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#2946064 24-Jul-2022 20:58

In the end, it is the attitude in the head and what is thought that is decisive and not the convulsive prohibition of possibly hurtful words. I don't mind being called Kraut, Bosch, Piefke or Fritz, as long as it's combined with a laugh among friends, all's well with the world as far as I'm concerned.

One of my best friends comes from Cameroon, is black as night and I respectfully call him Black Bushman (he‘s an engineer). If the German PC police found out about this, I'd probably be in a lot of trouble, whether MY black FRIEND likes it or NOT!

As an independent, enlightened, liberal person, I find this frantic prescribing of linguistic behaviour and ways of thinking so mindf#cking by now that it is an insult to my intellect. Just because there are (true) airheads in the world doesn't mean I as an individual have to be treated like a potential airhead.

I want to be friendly when and because I want to be, not because I am told to be. And if I don't want to be friendly, no one has to tell me to be friendly. Forcing me to be friendly by law means that they are not interested in my reasons for being unfriendly. This is nothing other than direct, personal discrimination.

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#2946082 24-Jul-2022 22:35

I use black white deodorant because it doesn’t leave marks. That’s all.

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