Dingbatt:

 

But not you. Right?

 

I've been around long enough. I'm not fussed one way or another.

Batman:

 

i am born in the developing world, donate money to the developing world, have a passport there, have untold relatives in developing world, and see the pollution we manage to create. we have no choice. without government championship, to exist we need to pollute. unfortunately the effects of climate change will hit us developing world the greatest. probably causing us to need pollute more to exist.

 

i'm not a climate scientist though, i could be wrong.

 

We can pollute, that's fine, most species do as well. Elephants ravage a grazing area then move on and ravage another, the Earth copes. Volcanoes dom the Earthg copes. We can only live here due to greenhouse gases. Its the level that we pollute that matters. We can replace most FF burning with green electricity. We can add more trees and green land, its not that hard. Governments get blamed, but its the people that are to blame, they need Governments to steer them as they won't themselves.

tdgeek:

 

Batman:

 

i am born in the developing world, donate money to the developing world, have a passport there, have untold relatives in developing world, and see the pollution we manage to create. we have no choice. without government championship, to exist we need to pollute. unfortunately the effects of climate change will hit us developing world the greatest. probably causing us to need pollute more to exist.

 

i'm not a climate scientist though, i could be wrong.

 

 

We can pollute, that's fine, most species do as well. Elephants ravage a grazing area then move on and ravage another, the Earth copes. Volcanoes dom the Earthg copes. We can only live here due to greenhouse gases. Its the level that we pollute that matters. We can replace most FF burning with green electricity. We can add more trees and green land, its not that hard. Governments get blamed, but its the people that are to blame, they need Governments to steer them as they won't themselves.

 

Trees are a miniscule contribution relative to the oceans, which provide our oxygen and a huge source of food. We can't get more oceans (well, other than our melting polar caps). What we need to do is stop raping our oceans and filling them full of crap that isn't naturally there.

networkn:

 

Trees are a miniscule contribution relative to the oceans, which provide our oxygen and a huge source of food. We can't get more oceans (well, other than our melting polar caps). What we need to do is stop raping our oceans and filling them full of crap that isn't naturally there.

 

I wouldn't call 30% minuscule. Further reading shows that oceans produce 50-80 of our oxygen (via plankton) but most of that is consumed by marine life and its consumed by decaying marine life. The main role of oceans is to store and release heat, store CO2, and to circulate nutrients. You can't increase oceans but you can increase surface green matter that also absorbs CO2 and releases oxygen. As the oceans warm they retain less oxygen, then marine life dies, consuming the oxygen and acidifying/stagnating the water. So, we cant direct fix the oceans but we can directly increase other sources, which also sequester CO2  

I've already done it. I did not procreate.

My genes will no longer be a burden on this planet once I die.

kiwifidget:

 

I've already done it. I did not procreate.

 

My genes will no longer be a burden on this planet once I die.

 

Me too. I figured one of me was enough.

You know it's not made by the Australian Government right

Batman:

 

But for every kid I don't have, people in the developing world are having upto 10-20. And their kid will do the same and so on.

 

Birth rate is, surprisingly, dependent on child mortality rate and life expectancy. When life expectancy is low, birth rates are high, presumably through some biological imperative for parents' genes to survive. If half of children die, you need not only an heir and a spare, but also a couple more spares. So health improvements are the answer to high birth rates. Typically within a generation or so, birth rates decline.

way more sexy to ride a private jet and hop onto a space ship than to drive around in a nissan leaf or pick up rubbish on the streets

You have to remember that the “Climate Crisis” was pushed off the front pages in 2020 by a pandemic. Once the pandemic is history, the crisis will be pushed to the forefront again. Disaster porn sells.

I think he nails it at 1:15:45...

Dingbatt:

 

You have to remember that the “Climate Crisis” was pushed off the front pages in 2020 by a pandemic. Once the pandemic is history, the crisis will be pushed to the forefront again. Disaster porn sells.

 

Today I learned that in some people's eyes, a pandemic that's already killed millions of people so far and is still raging, and an environmental crisis that's already changed our lives and will continue to do so, should be compared to sexual titillation, trivialised as if it's some kind of eye candy.

If what you're saying is that there's hypocrisy when "big media" profits from selling greenwashed promises for a lifestyle that's not sustainable, then I'd be inclined to agree with you.  But I suspect that's not what you're saying at all.