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#1320821 10-Jun-2015 07:59

The scene was disturbing but in context with the story, and the attitude of the characters.

I do think they could have made more of the mothers anguish to highlight her change of heart towards her daughter. This season she has shown her hate towards her in some scenes.

All said and done the scene was within the context of the times and the brutality as with the scene that started the thread.

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#1320878 10-Jun-2015 09:20

Yeah, it was pretty upsetting watching poor Shireen get burned at the stake - for me, much worse than Sansa being raped. Ramsay was always going to do that and while rape is a terrible act, it was no surprise that it was going to happen, but while Stannis's devotion to the Lord of Light has been heading this way for a while, it's still pretty awful watching two parents willingly consign their only child to the flames.

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#1320884 10-Jun-2015 09:23

It amazes me that people manage to get so worked up over things when they are on TV yet when the very same things quietly reside within the pages of a book, no one says a word..!

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#1320892 10-Jun-2015 09:29

Geektastic: It amazes me that people manage to get so worked up over things when they are on TV yet when the very same things quietly reside within the pages of a book, no one says a word..!

Or in their own country for that matter.

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#1322051 10-Jun-2015 12:41

It is really bugging me when people say 'in those times' etc to justify scenes in the books and series. It is a total fantasy. Those scenes are there because that is the way G.R.R Martin thinks and no other reason for it. Not history.

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#1322080 10-Jun-2015 13:12

Geektastic: It amazes me that people manage to get so worked up over things when they are on TV yet when the very same things quietly reside within the pages of a book, no one says a word..!

imagination vs tv/movies.

I have read some severely messed up stuff in my time (being pre teen and being into sci-fi/fantasy gets away with a lot).

Seeing it portrayed can be more/less evocative - how you imagine something can be better/worse than what a director/tv show actually shows happening. I think my young brain didn't have the material to picture some of the worse stuff.

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#1322141 10-Jun-2015 13:55

heylinb4nz:
networkn: Well to my mind the burning alive of a young innocent girl was as disturbing if not worse than the original topics scene. I found that pretty horrifying.

Yeah as a parent that was pretty horrible to watch, I know its only fiction, but that scene certainly was close to the edge.

Indeed.

That scene hit me like a gut-punch!

It's quite telling that the incidents that have given rise to the greatest outrage have been ones that were (uncharacteristically for this show) not graphically depicted on screen.

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#1322274 10-Jun-2015 16:12

networkn: Well to my mind the burning alive of a young innocent girl was as disturbing if not worse than the original topics scene. I found that pretty horrifying.

The difference in reaction to the two example scenes is down to the fact that burning at the stake is not really a current issue.

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#1322304 10-Jun-2015 16:32

gzt:
networkn: Well to my mind the burning alive of a young innocent girl was as disturbing if not worse than the original topics scene. I found that pretty horrifying.

The difference in reaction to the two example scenes is down to the fact that burning at the stake is not really a current issue.

No stakes were harmed in the burning of this unfortunate fellow a few months back...

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#1322337 10-Jun-2015 17:37

wasabi2k:
Geektastic: It amazes me that people manage to get so worked up over things when they are on TV yet when the very same things quietly reside within the pages of a book, no one says a word..!

imagination vs tv/movies.

I have read some severely messed up stuff in my time (being pre teen and being into sci-fi/fantasy gets away with a lot).

Seeing it portrayed can be more/less evocative - how you imagine something can be better/worse than what a director/tv show actually shows happening. I think my young brain didn't have the material to picture some of the worse stuff.

People used to pay to watch real people kill one another. Humans appear to have become somewhat pathetic in comparison.

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#1322339 10-Jun-2015 17:38

gzt:
networkn: Well to my mind the burning alive of a young innocent girl was as disturbing if not worse than the original topics scene. I found that pretty horrifying.

The difference in reaction to the two example scenes is down to the fact that burning at the stake is not really a current issue.

Kind of is if you live in PNG. They still burn witches.

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#1322435 10-Jun-2015 21:08

I'm curious as to whether we will see various media articles complaining about the burning scene. If not I wonder why.

I found that scene very disturbing - adults doing various things to each other torturing, killing, and yes that infamous rape scene; I can cope with because its consistent with the theme of the series that the world is a violent place and bad things happen.

But I found that scene unneccessary, the idea that someone could sacrifice their child because of twisted religious belief is shocking enough.

I didnt need to see 30 seconds of a ?10 year old girl screaming in abject terror as she realises she is going to be murdered and then is burnt to death. The makers choose to film it that way and I think lesser of them for it.

I found my finger hovering on the power button to turn it off and even several hours later, the scene still bothers me.

There will be those who say thats the world of the story and anything goes, in which case I expect to see that peripubecent prostitute get her kit off with the soldier. I'm sure the actress is over 18.

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#1322449 10-Jun-2015 21:33

afe66: I'm curious as to whether we will see various media articles complaining about the burning scene. If not I wonder why.

I found that scene very disturbing - adults doing various things to each other torturing, killing, and yes that infamous rape scene; I can cope with because its consistent with the theme of the series that the world is a violent place and bad things happen.

But I found that scene unneccessary, the idea that someone could sacrifice their child because of twisted religious belief is shocking enough.

I didnt need to see 30 seconds of a ?10 year old girl screaming in abject terror as she realises she is going to be murdered and then is burnt to death. The makers choose to film it that way and I think lesser of them for it.

I found my finger hovering on the power button to turn it off and even several hours later, the scene still bothers me.

There will be those who say thats the world of the story and anything goes, in which case I expect to see that peripubecent prostitute get her kit off with the soldier. I'm sure the actress is over 18.

A.

I'm with you on this one. I was waiting for the media and other outlets to threaten to stop watching, or reviewing it weekly (Perhaps they all stopped watching after the "rape" scene), but apparently setting a little girl on fire doesn't outrage people the same way.

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#1322455 10-Jun-2015 21:58

One thing we have lost in this series is the nudity. It almost never happens now, yet in the first series it was common.

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#1322463 10-Jun-2015 22:16

While the sacrifice scene was a bit OTT - Surely the fact there was a decent dragon scene makes it OK?

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