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  #2951200 6-Aug-2022 08:08
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elpenguino:

 

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter#:~:text=Nuclear%20winter%20is%20a%20severe,a%20large%2Dscale%20nuclear%20war.

 

 

firestorms would result in the injection of soot (specifically black carbon) into the Earth's stratosphere, producing an anti-greenhouse effect that would lower the Earth's surface temperature. The severity of this cooling in Alan Robock's model suggests that the cumulative products of 100 of these firestorms could cool the global climate by approximately 1 °C (1.8 °F), largely eliminating the magnitude of anthropogenic global warming for the next roughly two or three years.

 

 

Our climate is currently heating (or hotter), so the firestorms could be just what we need to get back to where we were a few years ago. Considering the immediate population loss from nuclear strikes and subsequent knockback to global trade, a nuclear war could be just what we need as a climate 'reset'.

 

 

 

 

Read a lot about that. These particles are large, so unlike atmospheric dust they hold onto more water, so shield the Sun somewhat. 




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  #2951203 6-Aug-2022 08:18
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tdgeek: Japan had two strikes, they managed fine.

Oh yeah nothing to worry about..

 

I guess it depends if USA receives 200 strikes, Russia 200, China 200, EU 200 and so on, and a raft of other countries. Oh and AUS and NZ get a dozen etc? Or will there be targeted strikes on major cities in these counters, so we have  number of Hiroshima's? Rather than 1000+ global strikes?


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  #2951503 7-Aug-2022 08:18
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@tdgeek consider low strike figures of a dozen strikes in each region in the US, Russia, Europe on major cities, that is 36 Mt Saint Helens occurring at the same time around the globe and now add in massive radiation into the mix. This does not account for any strikes in Asia or Middle East.

 

I don't think you understand the difference between the small devices detonated in Japan to the extremely powerful devices available to the super powers.





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  #2951510 7-Aug-2022 08:54
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MikeB4:

 

@tdgeek consider low strike figures of a dozen strikes in each region in the US, Russia, Europe on major cities, that is 36 Mt Saint Helens occurring at the same time around the globe and now add in massive radiation into the mix. This does not account for any strikes in Asia or Middle East.

 

I don't think you understand the difference between the small devices detonated in Japan to the extremely powerful devices available to the super powers.

 

 

Perhaps not, but unlike 36 Mt St Helens, the nukes smoke will dissipate, whereas volcanoes spew and spew and spew for a lengthy period. As do wildfires. That we get every year, and satellite visible. I certainly dont subscribe to the breakdown of agriculture due to the smoke coverage that you mentioned. If that occurred, its a mass extinction event, that wont happen.  


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  #2951557 7-Aug-2022 08:57
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The cities will burn for months, they will be too radioactive to enter and there will be no facilities and very few people to fight the fires.





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  #2951558 7-Aug-2022 09:02
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MikeB4:

 

The cities will burn for months, they will be too radioactive to enter and there will be no facilities and very few people to fight the fires.

 

 

Agree. Apart from burning for months. Concrete jungles wont burn long. 


 
 
 

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  #2951564 7-Aug-2022 09:33
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@tdgeek cities don't just have concrete. They are full of combustible material that is also very toxic when burning. EG cars, tyres, flooring, fuel supplies, all manner of chemicals. The fires will not only be on the surface they will burn underground and under rubble. Ever seen how long mine fires or peat fires can burn? Under modern cities there are kilometers of tunnels full of combustible material.




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  #2951565 7-Aug-2022 09:35
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MikeB4: @tdgeek cities don't just have concrete. They are full of combustible material that is also very toxic when burning. EG cars, tyres, flooring, fuel supplies, all manner of chemicals. The fires will not only be on the surface they will burn underground and under rubble. Ever seen how long mine fires or peat fires can burn? Under modern cities there are kilometers of tunnels full of combustible material.

 

Yes I realise that. Carpet, cardboard, rubber, plastic


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  #2951569 7-Aug-2022 09:44
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MikeB4: @tdgeek cities don't just have concrete. They are full of combustible material that is also very toxic when burning. EG cars, tyres, flooring, fuel supplies, all manner of chemicals. The fires will not only be on the surface they will burn underground and under rubble. Ever seen how long mine fires or peat fires can burn? Under modern cities there are kilometers of tunnels full of combustible material.


Yes I realise that. Carpet, cardboard, rubber, plastic



There is a hell of a lot more than that




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  #2951583 7-Aug-2022 10:09
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tdgeek: Agree. Apart from burning for months. Concrete jungles wont burn long.

Yay, then we can wrap ourselves in tin foil for protection and toast the plentiful cockroaches. Is this is geekzone topic or a Monty Python sketch?

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  #2951597 7-Aug-2022 11:09
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gzt:
tdgeek: Agree. Apart from burning for months. Concrete jungles wont burn long.

Yay, then we can wrap ourselves in tin foil for protection and toast the plentiful cockroaches. Is this is geekzone topic or a Monty Python sketch?

 

Its a world extinction vs we will struggle on thread it seems.


 
 
 

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  #2951610 7-Aug-2022 12:20
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This is the way the world ends

 

This is the way the world ends

 

This is the way the world ends

 

Not with a bang but a whimper

 

 

 

 





Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 


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  #2951689 7-Aug-2022 14:30
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A clue is in this ...

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones" attributed to Albert Einstein




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  #2951694 7-Aug-2022 14:43
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Rikkitic:

 

This is the way the world ends

 

This is the way the world ends

 

This is the way the world ends

 

Not with a bang but a whimper

 

 

 

 

 

 

nah not the world

 

just human civilization

 

there are numerous evidence of presence of an extinct ancient civilization

 

most likely got too advanced for their own good

 

like us


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  #2951698 7-Aug-2022 14:48
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The most powerful nuclear war film I have seen is Testament, which has no war in it at all. Cities die at a distance, suburb carries on initially and dies a little at a time. Instead of a big collapse, there is a steady decline as systems fail and survivors lose the things they hold dear. It is very chilling and I suspect how things might go here. No dramatic end, just a steady chipping away of all the things that make life liveable.

 

 





Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 


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