Downtown Auckland - Active shooter incident 2023-07-20

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#3111830 4-Aug-2023 16:46

ezbee:

So gun and hunting clubs don't keep registers of their members, with addresses?
Confirmation of their license status and such.
Or record what events people may participate in a leaderboard for different types of competitions?

What details does your gun shop account keep on you?

Gun clubs do have names and address of their members, of course. But they don't have a list of rifles by serial number, type, and calibre...

Gun shops used to just be required to sight your license. Then it was record the serial number of the rifle sold along with your license details. Shop at several Gun shops, purchase from friends or your club, no one individual shop has a record of all that you have purchased.

Now, there is an online register, run by an organisation that has demonstrated on multiple occasions how it cannot be trusted to look after that information safely, that has your name, address, contact details and a list of everything that you own -all in one place.

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#3111847 4-Aug-2023 18:02

ezbee:

So gun and hunting clubs don't keep registers of their members, with addresses?
Confirmation of their license status and such.
Or record what events people may participate in a leaderboard for different types of competitions?

What details does your gun shop account keep on you?

What neither of those do is keep a record of every firearm you own, some of which you may have owned for a very long time.
As I said in my post, there's a big difference between a list of people who own a firearm, and a shopping catalogue of whose house to go to for what

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#3111882 4-Aug-2023 20:02

Reports now that one of the 2 people has died. Very sad.

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#3111993 5-Aug-2023 01:34

MikeAqua:

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as firearms are recorded by police anyway, which is how they caught the guy who sold the guns to the whangerai shooter, clearly a register is not much of a deterrent.

A firearms register is a list of addresses that firearms are held at. That is info that can potentially be furnished to criminals by corrupt police officers. For that reason, I wouldn't personally support a firearm register.

That sort of reminds me of the Line of Duty TV show, a greats how. But I wonder how rife it is in NZ?

Maybe it is time we heavily restrict guns, like we have with high powered lasers. NZs gun crime now seems out of control, and we seem to be getting these events on a regular basis. NZ has a pretty poor history with guns IMO

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#3112002 5-Aug-2023 07:16

Way off topic, but it's significantly easier to get a high powered laser here than it is an illegal firearm - you just order it from Ali. They are not "heavily restricted".

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