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Topic # 115677 3-Apr-2013 12:32
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So it seems like "North Island" and "South Island" aren't their official respective names.

Here are some names already thought up.

What other names do you guys have?




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  Reply # 792287 3-Apr-2013 12:56
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There's no need to change them at all. The Geographic Board are guilty of being some of the biggest oxygen thieves among our bloated bureaucracy. As far as I'm concerned it will always be "Wanganui" and "Mt Egmont" too. Dual place names don't work because the PC media only use the Maori version, the same with schools. In time the long standing English names of many geographic locations will be forgotten.

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TheMantis: There's no need to change them at all. The Geographic Board are guilty of being some of the biggest oxygen thieves among our bloated bureaucracy. As far as I'm concerned it will always be "Wanganui" and "Mt Egmont" too. Dual place names don't work because the PC media only use the Maori version, the same with schools. In time the long standing English names of many geographic locations will be forgotten.

Wanganui being a long standing English name? And of course the even longer standing Maori names like Taranaki have no place in the scheme?

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  Reply # 792306 3-Apr-2013 13:20
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More BS.

I really don't get the point of the Geographic Board. Surely they must do more than just think if place names. While we are at it might as well change the name of the country to the Maori name.

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  Reply # 792317 3-Apr-2013 13:28
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I have always thought North and South Islands were daft names, the Maori names are far better.




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  Reply # 792329 3-Apr-2013 13:40
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I always liked describing the country as Auckland and Not Auckland.. :p

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  Reply # 792354 3-Apr-2013 13:56
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TheMantis: There's no need to change them at all. The Geographic Board are guilty of being some of the biggest oxygen thieves among our bloated bureaucracy. As far as I'm concerned it will always be "Wanganui" and "Mt Egmont" too. Dual place names don't work because the PC media only use the Maori version, the same with schools. In time the long standing English names of many geographic locations will be forgotten.

Wanganui being a long standing English name? And of course the even longer standing Maori names like Taranaki have no place in the scheme?


Wanganui is the name of a settlement, a settlement where the majority of occupants agreed with the original spelling. Even if the original spelling was incorrect in the eyes of some it doesn't matter.

I don't mind my province being called Taranaki at all. I never said I don't like Maori names for geographic locations, only my dislike for dual names as the media and educators tend to quickly drop any reference to the English version. Maori are always wanting to retain their identity and history (which is understandable) should the majority of us have to loose ours just to accomplish this completely token exercise.

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  Reply # 792374 3-Apr-2013 14:14
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Captain Cook's Map didn't call them North Island and South Island.



The names he chose were, a somewhat phonetically spelt representation of the Maori names.




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  Reply # 792387 3-Apr-2013 14:18
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TheMantis:
BlueShift:
TheMantis: There's no need to change them at all. The Geographic Board are guilty of being some of the biggest oxygen thieves among our bloated bureaucracy. As far as I'm concerned it will always be "Wanganui" and "Mt Egmont" too. Dual place names don't work because the PC media only use the Maori version, the same with schools. In time the long standing English names of many geographic locations will be forgotten.

Wanganui being a long standing English name? And of course the even longer standing Maori names like Taranaki have no place in the scheme?


Wanganui is the name of a settlement, a settlement where the majority of occupants agreed with the original spelling. Even if the original spelling was incorrect in the eyes of some it doesn't matter.

I don't mind my province being called Taranaki at all. I never said I don't like Maori names for geographic locations, only my dislike for dual names as the media and educators tend to quickly drop any reference to the English version. Maori are always wanting to retain their identity and history (which is understandable) should the majority of us have to loose ours just to accomplish this completely token exercise.


With regards to Mt Taranaki (Egmont) I can not see how John Perceval, 2nd Earl of Egmont who never visited the Mount or NZ has any relevance to New Zealands heritage. 




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  Reply # 792393 3-Apr-2013 14:21
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"Us" and "Them" - use as you wish. :)




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  Reply # 792397 3-Apr-2013 14:24
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Don't see whats wrong with the current names. The Island on the top is the North one, the island on the bottom is the south one. How confusing will it be for companies delivering to households from overseas?

Lets say you import something from China, the island names change to some long as Maori name, chances are you will not get the goods.

Going off topic there I know, sorry :D

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  Reply # 792409 3-Apr-2013 14:38
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How about State 8 and State 9 of Australia.. :-)




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  Reply # 792410 3-Apr-2013 14:40
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old3eyes: How about State 8 and State 9 of Australia.. :-)


What happened to state 7, Stewart Island perhaps :)

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  Reply # 792412 3-Apr-2013 14:45
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kiwitrc:
old3eyes: How about State 8 and State 9 of Australia.. :-)


What happened to state 7, Stewart Island perhaps :)


That's a state of mind..  Forgot that NT wasn't a state..




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Finch: Don't see whats wrong with the current names. The Island on the top is the North one, the island on the bottom is the south one. How confusing will it be for companies delivering to households from overseas?

Lets say you import something from China, the island names change to some long as Maori name, chances are you will not get the goods.

Going off topic there I know, sorry :D


I have never used nor seen North Island or South Island on an address. But even if people used them, the correct 4-digit postcode and country name New Zealand should suffice.

However, I'm now wondering with what accuracy international mail is delivered if the country name is written Aotearoa with no reference to New Zealand or NZ.

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  Reply # 792418 3-Apr-2013 14:48
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Finch:the island on the bottom is the south one.


The island on the bottom is Stewart Island/Rakiura

Which actually WAS called the South Island for a while, what is now the South Island (Te Wai Pounamu) was called Middle Island, or even briefly, New Munster.  So we could always go back to that.  I live in Christchurch, New Munster.





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