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Topic # 151067 13-Aug-2014 09:48
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Just renewed my car registration and noticed its no cheaper than last time.

I recall reading this article last time I renewed which is why I went for 6 months last time;

http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/9439176/Cheaper-car-registration-for-some

Does anyone have any idea when in "2014" this kicks in given we are almost 3/4 through the year.

BTW my car is a 2010 model so I would expect the "cheaper" registration would apply.

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  Reply # 1107474 13-Aug-2014 09:49
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  Reply # 1107477 13-Aug-2014 09:52
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No motorbike reduction, still $528-71. Not all of us are unsafe to ourselves or others. 

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1107478 13-Aug-2014 09:53
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Ahhh looking forward to that




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  Reply # 1107491 13-Aug-2014 10:34
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My annual spend is $1800, it's a shame I have to pay full amount for all vehicles when I can only use one at a time.

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  Reply # 1107506 13-Aug-2014 11:02
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Would you like a lapel badge per vehicle so you can display your generousity to the State coffers?

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  Reply # 1107573 13-Aug-2014 12:39
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tchart: Oh, looks like it kicks in next year;


Yep, I just got my renewal advice a few days ago and thought I better check because I recalled seeing that article as well.  No joy this time around, perhaps next year!

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  Reply # 1107584 13-Aug-2014 13:02
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You could perhaps get a 6 month registration now, and then go annual next year when the price is lower.



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  Reply # 1107585 13-Aug-2014 13:10
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IlDuce: My annual spend is $1800, it's a shame I have to pay full amount for all vehicles when I can only use one at a time.


I imagine that licensing the license holder would be fairer but ultimately not enforceable.

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driver A has full car license and pays $300 PA to keep license valid
driver B has full car license plus full bike license and pays $800 PA to keep both licenses valid

Problem is people would cheat the system (e.g. "I'm not riding a bike this year") and given all the clowns driving without licenses it would never work.

At least now there is a physical "thing" (ie the car or bike) that you can eyeball to see if the rego is current (or the cops can punch the license plate into their system).



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  Reply # 1107646 13-Aug-2014 13:44
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For bike riders, you can target ticketed riders and those that caused accidents, redistribute the ACC based on that, but then you bring in a whole new layer of admin costs.

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IlDuce: My annual spend is $1800, it's a shame I have to pay full amount for all vehicles when I can only use one at a time.


Good point. The wear on the road for you is the same for any other driver, irregardless of how many vehicles you have. Again, too much admin involved, as others may use your vehicles concurrently. Same argument for km used in a year, too hard to manage

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  Reply # 1107648 13-Aug-2014 13:47
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Not exactly relevant but of general related interest:

As of the end of this year, the UK is doing away with windscreen mounted rego discs altogether. 

You will be required to register and pay on line or at the Post Office and the NPR cameras (Number Plate Recognition) mounted in Police vehicles, motorway bridges and so on will read your plates every time you pass and check whether you have paid! No pay - fine. No pay fine - car crushed.

I wonder what our system costs to operate. Combining it with the WOF system would get rid of a whole level of administration, for a start.





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Geektastic: Not exactly relevant but of general related interest:

As of the end of this year, the UK is doing away with windscreen mounted rego discs altogether. 

You will be required to register and pay on line or at the Post Office and the NPR cameras (Number Plate Recognition) mounted in Police vehicles, motorway bridges and so on will read your plates every time you pass and check whether you have paid! No pay - fine. No pay fine - car crushed.

I wonder what our system costs to operate. Combining it with the WOF system would get rid of a whole level of administration, for a start.


Great post. A lot of enforcements on a lot of issues, rolled into one automatic catch all

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  Reply # 1107653 13-Aug-2014 13:55
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People also seem to forget that annual vehicle licencing (Registration) only costs about $30.  Over 80% of the total fee is an ACC levy (tax), and this is the part that is reducing.  

I do believe there was some talk of collecting the ACC levy other ways such as fuel excise, but IIRC ACC fees have to be based on relative risk (cost outlay), so motorists that have a lower claims risk such as car drivers, would have ended up paying more than those with a higher injury risk profile, such as motorcyclists...so that was deemed to be unfair.   I may be way off the mark but I always understood the levy was arrived at simply by projecting the expected claims outlay and business costs/number of vehicles in each class = levy paid.     I guess it could be  a tax on a driver licence, but they don't get renewed for 10 years...just imagine the cost!!!




  




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  Reply # 1107654 13-Aug-2014 13:56
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Geektastic: Not exactly relevant but of general related interest:

As of the end of this year, the UK is doing away with windscreen mounted rego discs altogether. 

You will be required to register and pay on line or at the Post Office and the NPR cameras (Number Plate Recognition) mounted in Police vehicles, motorway bridges and so on will read your plates every time you pass and check whether you have paid! No pay - fine. No pay fine - car crushed.

I wonder what our system costs to operate. Combining it with the WOF system would get rid of a whole level of administration, for a start.


Great post. A lot of enforcements on a lot of issues, rolled into one automatic catch all


Watch this space....

Mind you the 'anti government surveillance' movement would be all over this like a rash.  





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scuwp: People also seem to forget that annual vehicle licencing (Registration) only costs about $30.  Over 80% of the total fee is an ACC levy (tax), and this is the part that is reducing.  

I do believe there was some talk of collecting the ACC levy other ways such as fuel excise, but IIRC ACC fees have to be based on relative risk (cost outlay), so motorists that have a lower claims risk such as car drivers, would have ended up paying more than those with a higher injury risk profile, such as motorcyclists...so that was deemed to be unfair.   I may be way off the mark but I always understood the levy was arrived at simply by projecting the expected claims outlay and business costs/number of vehicles in each class = levy paid.     I guess it could be  a tax on a driver licence, but they don't get renewed for 10 years...just imagine the cost!!!




  


Indeed - although you have to wonder what the point of the $30 is...!

The admin cost of collecting all the various parts of ACC must be huge. Given that it is in effect just a part of central government, I wonder if the cost of maintaining the fiction of separation is worth it when compared with increasing general taxation to fund it and binning the whole levy idea altogether?





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