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# 177132 23-Jul-2015 15:08
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Could this be considered anti-competitive in any way ?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/70261319/genesis-energy-delivers-650000-do-not-knock-stickers-to-customers

I could understand if consumer was sending them out, or people on their own bat requested them, but is it really prudent for an Energy Company to be promoting \ pushing these stickers ? especially so if their competitors do undertake door knocking.



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  # 1350496 23-Jul-2015 15:15
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I wouldn't have thought so. People are free to choose any number of other providers off their own bat. I dare say that anyone that chooses to utilise one of these stickers, rather than tossing it, is probably unlikely to be too receptive to door knockers anyway.



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  # 1350501 23-Jul-2015 15:18
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bazzer: I wouldn't have thought so. People are free to choose any number of other providers off their own bat. I dare say that anyone that chooses to utilise one of these stickers, rather than tossing it, is probably unlikely to be too receptive to door knockers anyway.


What if the stickers said "No Energy Sales People Thanks" ?



 
 
 
 


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  # 1350510 23-Jul-2015 15:23
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I can't see any anti competitive issue here.  They are delivering a sticker produced by Consumer.  

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  # 1350522 23-Jul-2015 15:30
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heylinb4nz:
bazzer: I wouldn't have thought so. People are free to choose any number of other providers off their own bat. I dare say that anyone that chooses to utilise one of these stickers, rather than tossing it, is probably unlikely to be too receptive to door knockers anyway.


What if the stickers said "No Energy Sales People Thanks" ?

Same answer. Door knockers would form a very small portion of energy company churn, I'd have thought. It's more an annoyance than anything else. I doubt that Genesis will see much of a decrease in their customers leaving because of this sticker, and I don't think they're expecting it.

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  # 1350559 23-Jul-2015 16:04
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heylinb4nz:
bazzer: I wouldn't have thought so. People are free to choose any number of other providers off their own bat. I dare say that anyone that chooses to utilise one of these stickers, rather than tossing it, is probably unlikely to be too receptive to door knockers anyway.


What if the stickers said "No Energy Sales People Thanks" ? 

What if they said the moon was made of cheese?

"What if" counts for nothing. The stickers say what they say and a company has simply taken it upon themselves to distribute them on behalf of Consumer NZ based on it's interpretation of it's self initiated study. Some self-righteous clown has taken it upon themselves to, somewhat fatuously, feel "concerned" and the mainstream media have stupidly decided it's a printworthy story. This has got to be one of the biggest nothings I've seen all year.

Well done.

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  # 1350565 23-Jul-2015 16:13
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I stuck that sticker on my mailbox and by my front door several months ago. Haven't had a doorknocker since. I highly recommend them!

Genesis have decided not to use doorknockers anymore, on the basis that it irritates people. Sending out stickers produced by Consumer is a nifty bit of advertising on their part. The people who decide to use the stickers would most likely have not been useful targets for the other power companies doorknockers anyway. If anything, it may slightly raise the hit-rate of the remaining doorknockers who won't be wasting time knocking on doors where they aren't welcome.

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  # 1350573 23-Jul-2015 16:17
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Along with the New Zealand Marketing Association's "do not call" and "do not mail" lists, the "do not knock" sticker is a campaign by Consumer.  You can request a free sticker from Consumer but you have to provided them with a stamped, self-addressed envelope.  Alternatively you can pick up a sticker from from Citizens Advice Bureaux [it bugs me that there's no apostrophe in there, but that's how they write it], Resene Colour Shops and some other places at no cost.

Genesis are distributing them to their customers, which may have an ulterior motive behind it, but if you receive one from Genesis, you don't have to stick it up if you feel it is anti-competitive.



 
 
 
 


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  # 1350578 23-Jul-2015 16:22
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No different to folks putting no Leaflets or junk mail notices on their letter boxes. No problem with it all. Good on Genesis meeting the cost of this and giving folks the choice to display it or not/




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  # 1350588 23-Jul-2015 16:37
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We have had these stickers for a while, and still get plenty of door-to-door visitors. On pointing out the sign, some of the various responses have included "But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".

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  # 1350590 23-Jul-2015 16:38
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Inphinity: We have had these stickers for a while, and still get plenty of door-to-door visitors. On pointing out the sign, some of the various responses have included "But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".

GTFO.

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  # 1350595 23-Jul-2015 16:42
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Inphinity: We have had these stickers for a while, and still get plenty of door-to-door visitors. On pointing out the sign, some of the various responses have included "But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".


"Thank you. Now can you give me your name, and that of your company for the trespass order?"

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  # 1350611 23-Jul-2015 16:51
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Inphinity: We have had these stickers for a while, and still get plenty of door-to-door visitors. On pointing out the sign, some of the various responses have included "But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".


"But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".

annoying but kinda funny though, I would probably listen to them just for having the guts to say that




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  # 1350614 23-Jul-2015 16:58
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I've found doorknockers have given me good deals in the past, generally happy to give them the time of day.  We only get around one every three months though so that makes a difference to whether you find them annoying or not.

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  # 1350870 23-Jul-2015 23:18
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The only door knockers we ever get are the god squadders.

I usually impersonate my hero Monty Burns and 'Release The Hounds'.

My dogs are entirely harmless unless you resemble a rabbit but they do make a good song and dance - a hurried copy of Watchtower to light the wood burner with and the visitors are away down the drive....





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  # 1350969 24-Jul-2015 09:18
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jonb: I've found doorknockers have given me good deals in the past, generally happy to give them the time of day.  We only get around one every three months though so that makes a difference to whether you find them annoying or not.


We were getting them at least fortnitely, and usually in the middle of dinner. I don't miss them at all. The only ones I might miss are the primary school kids flogging chocolate bars - but I've really gone off Cadbury lately, so no loss there either.

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