Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


heylinb4nz

656 posts

Ultimate Geek
Inactive user


#177132 23-Jul-2015 15:08
Send private message

Could this be considered anti-competitive in any way ?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/70261319/genesis-energy-delivers-650000-do-not-knock-stickers-to-customers

I could understand if consumer was sending them out, or people on their own bat requested them, but is it really prudent for an Energy Company to be promoting \ pushing these stickers ? especially so if their competitors do undertake door knocking.



View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
bazzer
3438 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #1350496 23-Jul-2015 15:15
Send private message

I wouldn't have thought so. People are free to choose any number of other providers off their own bat. I dare say that anyone that chooses to utilise one of these stickers, rather than tossing it, is probably unlikely to be too receptive to door knockers anyway.



heylinb4nz

656 posts

Ultimate Geek
Inactive user


  #1350501 23-Jul-2015 15:18
Send private message

bazzer: I wouldn't have thought so. People are free to choose any number of other providers off their own bat. I dare say that anyone that chooses to utilise one of these stickers, rather than tossing it, is probably unlikely to be too receptive to door knockers anyway.


What if the stickers said "No Energy Sales People Thanks" ?



jmh

jmh
458 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #1350510 23-Jul-2015 15:23
Send private message

I can't see any anti competitive issue here.  They are delivering a sticker produced by Consumer.  



bazzer
3438 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #1350522 23-Jul-2015 15:30
Send private message

heylinb4nz:
bazzer: I wouldn't have thought so. People are free to choose any number of other providers off their own bat. I dare say that anyone that chooses to utilise one of these stickers, rather than tossing it, is probably unlikely to be too receptive to door knockers anyway.


What if the stickers said "No Energy Sales People Thanks" ?

Same answer. Door knockers would form a very small portion of energy company churn, I'd have thought. It's more an annoyance than anything else. I doubt that Genesis will see much of a decrease in their customers leaving because of this sticker, and I don't think they're expecting it.

Dratsab
3946 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #1350559 23-Jul-2015 16:04
Send private message

heylinb4nz:
bazzer: I wouldn't have thought so. People are free to choose any number of other providers off their own bat. I dare say that anyone that chooses to utilise one of these stickers, rather than tossing it, is probably unlikely to be too receptive to door knockers anyway.


What if the stickers said "No Energy Sales People Thanks" ? 

What if they said the moon was made of cheese?

"What if" counts for nothing. The stickers say what they say and a company has simply taken it upon themselves to distribute them on behalf of Consumer NZ based on it's interpretation of it's self initiated study. Some self-righteous clown has taken it upon themselves to, somewhat fatuously, feel "concerned" and the mainstream media have stupidly decided it's a printworthy story. This has got to be one of the biggest nothings I've seen all year.

Well done.

BlueShift
1692 posts

Uber Geek


  #1350565 23-Jul-2015 16:13
Send private message

I stuck that sticker on my mailbox and by my front door several months ago. Haven't had a doorknocker since. I highly recommend them!

Genesis have decided not to use doorknockers anymore, on the basis that it irritates people. Sending out stickers produced by Consumer is a nifty bit of advertising on their part. The people who decide to use the stickers would most likely have not been useful targets for the other power companies doorknockers anyway. If anything, it may slightly raise the hit-rate of the remaining doorknockers who won't be wasting time knocking on doors where they aren't welcome.

andrew027
1286 posts

Uber Geek


  #1350573 23-Jul-2015 16:17
Send private message

Along with the New Zealand Marketing Association's "do not call" and "do not mail" lists, the "do not knock" sticker is a campaign by Consumer.  You can request a free sticker from Consumer but you have to provided them with a stamped, self-addressed envelope.  Alternatively you can pick up a sticker from from Citizens Advice Bureaux [it bugs me that there's no apostrophe in there, but that's how they write it], Resene Colour Shops and some other places at no cost.

Genesis are distributing them to their customers, which may have an ulterior motive behind it, but if you receive one from Genesis, you don't have to stick it up if you feel it is anti-competitive.



 
 
 

Cloud spending continues to surge globally, but most organisations haven’t made the changes necessary to maximise the value and cost-efficiency benefits of their cloud investments. Download the whitepaper From Overspend to Advantage now.
MikeB4
18435 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified
Trusted

  #1350578 23-Jul-2015 16:22
Send private message

No different to folks putting no Leaflets or junk mail notices on their letter boxes. No problem with it all. Good on Genesis meeting the cost of this and giving folks the choice to display it or not/

Inphinity
2780 posts

Uber Geek


  #1350588 23-Jul-2015 16:37
Send private message

We have had these stickers for a while, and still get plenty of door-to-door visitors. On pointing out the sign, some of the various responses have included "But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".

bazzer
3438 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #1350590 23-Jul-2015 16:38
Send private message

Inphinity: We have had these stickers for a while, and still get plenty of door-to-door visitors. On pointing out the sign, some of the various responses have included "But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".

GTFO.

BlueShift
1692 posts

Uber Geek


  #1350595 23-Jul-2015 16:42
Send private message

Inphinity: We have had these stickers for a while, and still get plenty of door-to-door visitors. On pointing out the sign, some of the various responses have included "But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".


"Thank you. Now can you give me your name, and that of your company for the trespass order?"

MikeB4
18435 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified
Trusted

  #1350611 23-Jul-2015 16:51
Send private message

Inphinity: We have had these stickers for a while, and still get plenty of door-to-door visitors. On pointing out the sign, some of the various responses have included "But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".


"But I'm not selling, just letting you know about our company/deal/service", or "I didn't knock, I used the doorbell".

annoying but kinda funny though, I would probably listen to them just for having the guts to say that

jonb
1771 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #1350614 23-Jul-2015 16:58
Send private message

I've found doorknockers have given me good deals in the past, generally happy to give them the time of day.  We only get around one every three months though so that makes a difference to whether you find them annoying or not.

Geektastic
17942 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #1350870 23-Jul-2015 23:18
Send private message

The only door knockers we ever get are the god squadders.

I usually impersonate my hero Monty Burns and 'Release The Hounds'.

My dogs are entirely harmless unless you resemble a rabbit but they do make a good song and dance - a hurried copy of Watchtower to light the wood burner with and the visitors are away down the drive....





BlueShift
1692 posts

Uber Geek


  #1350969 24-Jul-2015 09:18
Send private message

jonb: I've found doorknockers have given me good deals in the past, generally happy to give them the time of day.  We only get around one every three months though so that makes a difference to whether you find them annoying or not.


We were getting them at least fortnitely, and usually in the middle of dinner. I don't miss them at all. The only ones I might miss are the primary school kids flogging chocolate bars - but I've really gone off Cadbury lately, so no loss there either.

 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic





News and reviews »

Air New Zealand Starts AI adoption with OpenAI
Posted 24-Jul-2025 16:00


eero Pro 7 Review
Posted 23-Jul-2025 12:07


BeeStation Plus Review
Posted 21-Jul-2025 14:21


eero Unveils New Wi-Fi 7 Products in New Zealand
Posted 21-Jul-2025 00:01


WiZ Introduces HDMI Sync Box and other Light Devices
Posted 20-Jul-2025 17:32


RedShield Enhances DDoS and Bot Attack Protection
Posted 20-Jul-2025 17:26


Seagate Ships 30TB Drives
Posted 17-Jul-2025 11:24


Oclean AirPump A10 Water Flosser Review
Posted 13-Jul-2025 11:05


Samsung Galaxy Z Fold7: Raising the Bar for Smartphones
Posted 10-Jul-2025 02:01


Samsung Galaxy Z Flip7 Brings New Edge-To-Edge FlexWindow
Posted 10-Jul-2025 02:01


Epson Launches New AM-C550Z WorkForce Enterprise printer
Posted 9-Jul-2025 18:22


Samsung Releases Smart Monitor M9
Posted 9-Jul-2025 17:46


Nearly Half of Older Kiwis Still Write their Passwords on Paper
Posted 9-Jul-2025 08:42


D-Link 4G+ Cat6 Wi-Fi 6 DWR-933M Mobile Hotspot Review
Posted 1-Jul-2025 11:34


Oppo A5 Series Launches With New Levels of Durability
Posted 30-Jun-2025 10:15









Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.