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Rikkitic

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#206041 7-Dec-2016 16:17

I opened a lotto account a couple weeks ago in order to see the must win results. Since then I have been barraged with emails pushing me to gamble more. I unsubscribed but that didn't make any difference. Yesterday I received an email screaming that 'this Saturday's draw is a special one' and today I was urged to 'give it a go, Rikki'.

What happened to responsible gambling? I find this kind of thing excessive and unacceptable from an organisation that is supposed to be about charity and responsible behaviour. How can this possibly be justified with the very real problems of gambling addiction that receive so much publicity?

I just unsubscribed again. It will be interesting to see how long it lasts this time. But unsolicited emails urging people to 'give it a go' hardly strike me as a responsible attitude in the face of the very real problem of gambling addiction.

For the record, I only ever buy lotto tickets for must win draws. What the hell? It improves the odds slightly. But this kind of crap I do not value or appreciate. There is a big difference between having a flutter and being pushed into compulsive gambling. I think this is disgusting.

Edit: I forgot to mention that all this joy is coming from an outfit called http://engage.ubiquity.co.nz/. Is this a new 'let's push them into debt' organisation? I don't remember them from the last time I visited lotto. Whoever they are, they have no business here. Lotto is supposed to be fun and charitable. This feels more like Las Vegas. No doubt this is an America operation.

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#1684052 7-Dec-2016 16:22

I object to all the profits going to the "people of Kaikoura".

Yes Kaikoura was heavily impacted by the quake, there is no denying that. There are however thousands (if not tens of thousands) of people in Wellington affected by the quake, numerous people that have lost their livelihood due to their business being impacted, and people laid off because their place of work has now gone. How are these people really that different?

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#1684053 7-Dec-2016 16:26

I have a MyLotto account and never get any unsolicited emails.

EDIT: Don't just use the unsubscribe link in the email, as that may only uncheck one of the many different types of emails they want to send. Go into your account settings and do it from there.

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#1684058 7-Dec-2016 16:40

I have never received an email from Lotto

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#1684061 7-Dec-2016 16:44

sbiddle:

I object to all the profits going to the "people of Kaikoura".

Yes Kaikoura was heavily impacted by the quake, there is no denying that. There are however thousands (if not tens of thousands) of people in Wellington affected by the quake, numerous people that have lost their livelihood due to their business being impacted, and people laid off because their place of work has now gone. How are these people really that different?

I agree. Infact I dislike how they are using the earthquakes as a marketing thing, in order to sell more tickets. The fact is that '100% of the profits' each week already go to New Zealanders, in the form of grants to community groups etc. So it doesn't sound like they are paying out any more money, unless they get a lot more lotto sales. So does that mean no money this week for the other groups? Also for this sort of disaster, it is the government that needs to pay for any help people and businesses need, not lotto.

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#1684066 7-Dec-2016 16:51

My biggest gripe with the lotto website, is it is down after almost every lotto draw for the rest of the evening, due to 'high load'. You would think they could build a robust website that could cope with that. Then the account locks at 11pm. So you can't check your online ticket. So you are better to just buy a ticket at a store, as there is no cost saving doing it online.

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#1684067 7-Dec-2016 16:52

I guess it's not frowned upon by the powers that be anymore. Much like moving to eftpos at the counter - when previously if you didn't carry cash, you weren't tempted. Now its just another thing to take out of the account directly without noticing until your next power or food bill (or sky!!) comes in. Likewise does everyone remember the complaints about how isles had cigarettes and luxury temptation items at the end like chocolate bars etc and it was frowned upon..

Yet now they use them on stands as a method of foot traffic control and while you are there you can pick up a lotto card and scan/pay at checkout to boot.

No avoiding it it seems.

Then again tAB has done similar, you can bet on nearly anything these days.

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#1684076 7-Dec-2016 17:34

I don't think I have ever had an email from Lotto and I am a long term My Lotto customer. You sure it was actually the Lotto site and not a scam?

Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation

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#1684078 7-Dec-2016 17:38

Prior to the recent Kaikoura one, I had only received a few "you have a balance, please use it" emails from MyLotto (I'd had that balance for about two years before they emailed me about it.)

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#1684142 7-Dec-2016 18:25

Rikkitic:

I opened a lotto account a couple weeks ago in order to see the must win results. Since then I have been barraged with emails pushing me to gamble more. I unsubscribed but that didn't make any difference. Yesterday I received an email screaming that 'this Saturday's draw is a special one' and today I was urged to 'give it a go, Rikki'.

What happened to responsible gambling? I find this kind of thing excessive and unacceptable from an organisation that is supposed to be about charity and responsible behaviour. How can this possibly be justified with the very real problems of gambling addiction that receive so much publicity?

I just unsubscribed again. It will be interesting to see how long it lasts this time. But unsolicited emails urging people to 'give it a go' hardly strike me as a responsible attitude in the face of the very real problem of gambling addiction.

For the record, I only ever buy lotto tickets for must win draws. What the hell? It improves the odds slightly. But this kind of crap I do not value or appreciate. There is a big difference between having a flutter and being pushed into compulsive gambling. I think this is disgusting.

Edit: I forgot to mention that all this joy is coming from an outfit called http://engage.ubiquity.co.nz/. Is this a new 'let's push them into debt' organisation? I don't remember them from the last time I visited lotto. Whoever they are, they have no business here. Lotto is supposed to be fun and charitable. This feels more like Las Vegas. No doubt this is an America operation.

Why dont you ask Lotto?

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#1684146 7-Dec-2016 18:29

Rikkitic:
I opened a lotto account a couple weeks ago in order to see the must win results. Since then I have been barraged with emails pushing me to gamble more. I unsubscribed but that didn't make any difference. Yesterday I received an email screaming that 'this Saturday's draw is a special one' and today I was urged to 'give it a go, Rikki'.

What happened to responsible gambling? I find this kind of thing excessive and unacceptable from an organisation that is supposed to be about charity and responsible behaviour. How can this possibly be justified with the very real problems of gambling addiction that receive so much publicity?

I just unsubscribed again. It will be interesting to see how long it lasts this time. But unsolicited emails urging people to 'give it a go' hardly strike me as a responsible attitude in the face of the very real problem of gambling addiction.

For the record, I only ever buy lotto tickets for must win draws. What the hell? It improves the odds slightly. But this kind of crap I do not value or appreciate. There is a big difference between having a flutter and being pushed into compulsive gambling. I think this is disgusting.

Edit: I forgot to mention that all this joy is coming from an outfit called http://engage.ubiquity.co.nz/. Is this a new 'let's push them into debt' organisation? I don't remember them from the last time I visited lotto. Whoever they are, they have no business here. Lotto is supposed to be fun and charitable. This feels more like Las Vegas. No doubt this is an America operation.

why don't you close your account?

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#1684232 7-Dec-2016 19:55

I'm another long time lotto NZ user who's never had an email from them.

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#1684237 7-Dec-2016 20:06

Rikkitic:

For the record, I only ever buy lotto tickets for must win draws. What the hell? It improves the odds slightly. But this kind of crap I do not value or appreciate. There is a big difference between having a flutter and being pushed into compulsive gambling. I think this is disgusting.

See, you're being unreasonable. Despite the barrage, you're still not a compulsive gambler. So long as you don't buy any tickets, it's perfectly reasonable to keep urging you to buy more. Actually, even after you buy a couple, it's still OK. In fact, so long as you're a mm away from the brink of compulsive gambling, there's nothing wrong with it.

So I suggest you get yourself up to say $100 a week on Lotto (pity it's too late to get in for tonight's draw, but you can spend tonight's money on Saturday). Put it on an automatic payment so you won't forget to buy a ticket.

If, after you do that, *and* you find that it's become compulsive, *and* you still get barraged with email, *then* you can complain.

Me, I just line the cans up in the cupboards into *exactly* straight lines. Categorised by contents, date of purchase, and date of expiry. It's much cheaper. Unless you need more cans to fill out the pattern.

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#1684262 7-Dec-2016 20:20

I don't want to post links to the emails here because my address is on them but if anyone insists on seeing them, PM me and I will send them to you. The one from yesterday proclaimed that Saturday's draw was a special one, presumably because it supports Kaikoura, the one from today addressed me by name and exhorted me to 'give it a go'. These are after I previously unsubscribed to all emails on the web site.

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#1684263 7-Dec-2016 20:21

MikeB4:

I have never received an email from Lotto

i have never played Lotto, so me to

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1684267 7-Dec-2016 20:32

Talk about overreaction. I have been using Lotto online for many years - since they started offering it online actually - and never received an email.

Ubiquity is an email service. You comment "they have no business here" is another overreaction. Don't shoot the messenger.

Click the unsubscribe button - this will remove you from the Ubiquity database. To be double sure, login to Lotto and check your profile to make sure there is not other email type you are subscribed to.

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