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#207370 21-Dec-2016 14:18
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While many of you kiwis are or have moved well on from an old ADSL connection to at least VDSL and in many cases FTTP, this kiwi happens to live in Australia where the idea of a next generation broadband network is a little different.

 

At home, I am currently stuck on a lovely ADSL2+ connection. It's all I can get in the apartment building I live in, and as Australia didn't (until recently) do a FTTN rollout, my 2.5km or so distance from the exchanges gives me somewhere around a 9-10Mbps download.

 

Thankfully, the Australian government have discovered this cutting edge technology called HFC - and have started to roll it out into my building! Hurray! Some day soon, I may be able to get at least 25Mbits down the pipe! Of course, our building adds another 50 or so connections to the local HFC node - so we'll see. Yay for the future!

 

Some lovely pictures of the new install into our MDF and IDFs from yesterday (not connected up yet - NBN say this will happen by no later than 2020!).

 

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Note the green sticker on the new coax reads "Telecom Australia". Telecom Australia changed their name to Telstra in 1995.





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  #1693286 21-Dec-2016 14:24
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Are you getting VDSL over the copper or is it going to be HFC straight to your apartment?

 

 




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  #1693290 21-Dec-2016 14:29
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sbiddle:

 

Are you getting VDSL over the copper or is it going to be HFC straight to your apartment?

 

 

NBN are rolling out both. NetComm make device that takes 1x coax in and outputs 4x VDSL lines. But given there is 2x 8 way splitters in each IDF now (Each floor has 12-15 units) I would say in our case they are going to swap the the Foxtel sat leads that are also split in the same IDF over to the cable so would be HFC right to each unit.

 

Not sure if that means a box swap or not for those who have Foxtel





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  #1693292 21-Dec-2016 14:33
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Some people like to bitch and moan about the UFB rollout here in NZ. Sounds like we have got a pretty good technology rollout compared to you guys however.

 

(We got UFB at our house back in Feb 2016.)




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  #1693301 21-Dec-2016 14:46
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DarthKermit:

 

Some people like to bitch and moan about the UFB rollout here in NZ. Sounds like we have got a pretty good technology rollout compared to you guys however.

 

(We got UFB at our house back in Feb 2016.)

 

 

Indeed. Most of the FTTP rollout has been scrapped now and those who have HFC are being converted to the NBN version of HFC which should get DOCSIS 3.1 sometime in 2017, and there is talk (but no confirmation) NBN will be running fiber a level deeper into the network in some cases where node size is deemed too large.

 

Most people however who have an existing property will now likely get only VDSL from a roadside cabinet over existing copper. In places where good ducting is in place some will get FTTdp - essentially fibre to the driveway then VDSL over the copper lead in. MDUs will either get FTTB with a VDSL ISAM, FTTdp or CTTdp tech to the IDP and VSDL from there - or as in my (likely) case, HFC right to the unit.

 

Even developers of brand new greenfields have been in some cases been told to plan for copper installs only for FTTN, and any optical runs will be a) at their own cost and b) not connectable for the foreseeable future. So there are pieces of land now that may not have even been broken up into titles let alone have services installed or houses planned to be built that may have copper only once they are built in the next 4 or so years.

 

The new metric the government have set for the NBN is that most properties are connected to a technology capable to delivering at least 25/5Mbit*, by 2020. 

 

*does not actually have to deliver this - just be technically capable of it - so basically VDSL or HFC.





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  #1693326 21-Dec-2016 15:16
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Reasons for getting Gigabit fibre connection in NZ:
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2. To show those speed tests to Australians




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  #1693327 21-Dec-2016 15:18
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coffeebaron: Reasons for getting Gigabit fibre connection in NZ:
1. To run speed tests
2. To show those speed tests to Australians

 

 

 

This seems like the perfect thread to post this then laughing

 

 

 





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  #1693370 21-Dec-2016 15:58
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ajobbins:

 

While many of you kiwis are or have moved well on from an old ADSL connection to at least VDSL and in many cases FTTP, this kiwi happens to live in Australia where the idea of a next generation broadband network is a little different.

 

At home, I am currently stuck on a lovely ADSL2+ connection.

 

 

 

 

Wow, you're lucky. My parents, in Emu Heights, only get ADSL1 at ~4Mb/0.2Mb as long as it's not any time of the day you'd want to use the internet, in which case it drops down to < 1Mb.





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  #1693374 21-Dec-2016 16:02
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Andib:

 

coffeebaron: Reasons for getting Gigabit fibre connection in NZ:
1. To run speed tests
2. To show those speed tests to Australians

 

 

 

This seems like the perfect thread to post this then laughing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your not wrong, Chorus's speed test network is excellent. Get 1Gb/s to the speed test server and thats about it!


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  #1693376 21-Dec-2016 16:07
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Andib:

 

coffeebaron: Reasons for getting Gigabit fibre connection in NZ:
1. To run speed tests
2. To show those speed tests to Australians

 

 

 

This seems like the perfect thread to post this then laughing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pfffff. You're not getting 1000/500. You should totally switch provider. They're slowing you down.





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  #1693378 21-Dec-2016 16:10
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SaltyNZ:

 

Andib:

 

coffeebaron: Reasons for getting Gigabit fibre connection in NZ:
1. To run speed tests
2. To show those speed tests to Australians

 

 

 

This seems like the perfect thread to post this then laughing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pfffff. You're not getting 1000/500. You should totally switch provider. They're slowing you down.

 

 

 

 

Nah mate.  Master Filter will sort that.


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  #1693380 21-Dec-2016 16:13
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ubergeeknz:

 

SaltyNZ:

 

Andib:

 

coffeebaron: Reasons for getting Gigabit fibre connection in NZ:
1. To run speed tests
2. To show those speed tests to Australians

 

 

 

This seems like the perfect thread to post this then laughing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pfffff. You're not getting 1000/500. You should totally switch provider. They're slowing you down.

 

 

 

 

Nah mate.  Master Filter will sort that.

 

 

 

 

Make sure its a Fibre master filter or your upload will be Limited to 10mb/s. 
Id be logging a case with the TDR without delay given how shocking those speeds are. YOU PAY FOR 1GB!@@!@!@!@
Thats disgusting, lets all flame that provider for their shocking wifi network and post all over facebook about how your speed is slow but you didnt test a single thing.

 

 

 

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  #1693383 21-Dec-2016 16:21
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coffeebaron: Reasons for getting Gigabit fibre connection in NZ:
1. To run speed tests
2. To show those speed tests to Australians

 

This is how I lost so much Reddit karma.





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  #1693399 21-Dec-2016 17:01
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shReddit gives out karma? Wow


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  #1693400 21-Dec-2016 17:01
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DarthKermit:

 

Some people like to bitch and moan about the UFB rollout here in NZ. Sounds like we have got a pretty good technology rollout compared to you guys however.

 

(We got UFB at our house back in Feb 2016.)

 

 

 

 

And not just the rollout, I continue to hear throwaway comments about how slow internet in NZ is - yet we have FTTH and good 4G coverage. Even our speeds after FTTN were probably better than what most people get in Australia or USA


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  #1693586 21-Dec-2016 23:40
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nickb800:

 

And not just the rollout, I continue to hear throwaway comments about how slow internet in NZ is - yet we have FTTH and good 4G coverage. Even our speeds after FTTN were probably better than what most people get in Australia or USA

 

 

 

 

This is true





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