Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




521 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 109


Topic # 223042 9-Sep-2017 18:16
3 people support this post

Interesting timing seeing it screen 10 days before the NZ election.    It includes an interesting interview with Nick Smith where he demonstrates an amazing ability to answer truthfully, yet completely avoid the intent of the interviewer's question.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
5251 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2487


  Reply # 1861467 9-Sep-2017 18:36
6 people support this post
Send private message

Embedded links:

 

 

 

(sorry haven't viewed these yet - so not sure which one OP refers to wrt Nick Smith etc)


Aussie
4121 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1138

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1861473 9-Sep-2017 18:42
Send private message

Watching now...

 

 

 

Damn :(


 
 
 
 




521 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 109


  Reply # 1861552 9-Sep-2017 20:47
One person supports this post

I think the interview with Nick Smith was in Part 2


1441 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 201


  Reply # 1861851 10-Sep-2017 14:05
One person supports this post
Send private message

Thanks for the imbedded links, Fred99.

13451 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1616


  Reply # 1861933 10-Sep-2017 18:44
3 people support this post
Send private message

I really wish that NZ showed this on TVNZ. This is the sort of documentary that NZ used to produce and screen on TV. There is a lack of this type of investigative reporting in NZ. There is still some, but it has been pushed to the fringes.


2486 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 446


  Reply # 1861940 10-Sep-2017 19:17
3 people support this post
Send private message

Someone should flick stuff and nzherald an email.
It's about time someone exposed the truth about our ' clean green' image. We seem happy to ignore the problem and have a government that thinks it can make rivers clean by changing legal definitions of toxicity.

The blowtorch of external scrutiny might be a (much needed) overdue wakeup call.




Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself - A. H. Weiler

25833 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5555

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1861941 10-Sep-2017 19:21
One person supports this post
Send private message

robjg63: Someone should flick stuff and nzherald an email.

 

No need. They both mentioned it weeks ago.

 

 


10542 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1747

Trusted

  Reply # 1861946 10-Sep-2017 19:38
Send private message

amiga500:

 

Interesting timing seeing it screen 10 days before the NZ election.    It includes an interesting interview with Nick Smith where he demonstrates an amazing ability to answer truthfully, yet completely avoid the intent of the interviewer's question.

 

 

He must be a politician???


6217 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2925

Subscriber

  Reply # 1861979 10-Sep-2017 21:12
3 people support this post
Send private message

I finally got around to seeing this. I actually lived through all the things in Hawke's Bay that they talk about. I think the documentary did a pretty good job of reporting what happened. The dam is now definitively dead as far as the council and public money are concerned, although they have left an opening for private capital to pick it up again, but that is very unlikely. It is to be hoped that this episode marks a turning point and a re-evaluation of intensified dairying and other environmentally destructive practices.

 

Having seen this documentary has given me the added nudge I needed to vote Green in this election. Now I want them to survive more than ever. We really do need their voice. Hopefully a Labour/Green/Maori government will finally get serious about environmental protection. I don't give a damn how many taxes they add as long as they achieve that. I don't think National or its supporters do not have the country's best interests at heart, but I do think their priorities are wrong. Intensified dairying is not the answer. We need a better vision.

 

 





I reject your reality and substitute my own. - Adam Savage
 


10341 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3185

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1862026 11-Sep-2017 00:57
One person supports this post
Send private message

It would be interesting to see how European nations manage to have dairying and clean(er) rivers.

 

 

 

I used to work for one of the large water and sewage companies in the UK and I recall one of the engineers saying that they could actually take the discharge water from the sewage plant and use it as intake water for the water treatment plant, but the public perception would be that they could not, so they discharged the sewage plant water into the river and sucked it out a mile or two downstream to treat and put into supply.

 

I suspect that part of the NZ problem is the fact that there is no national water system and no national rivers protection authority. With every council paddling it's own canoe as far as water etc goes it is not really a recipe for the application of universal standards and methods across NZ.






383 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 19


  Reply # 1862048 11-Sep-2017 08:03
Send private message

I use to go fishing for kawhai  where the Ngaruroro River & Tukituki River met the ocean at Awatoto and Haumoana 30 years ago..

 

I dont think I could ever do that again.

 

Last time I looked at the Karamu Stream at Clive I was disgusted on how bad it looked.


5251 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2487


  Reply # 1862514 11-Sep-2017 20:10
Send private message

Geektastic:

 

It would be interesting to see how European nations manage to have dairying and clean(er) rivers.

 

 

 

I used to work for one of the large water and sewage companies in the UK and I recall one of the engineers saying that they could actually take the discharge water from the sewage plant and use it as intake water for the water treatment plant, but the public perception would be that they could not, so they discharged the sewage plant water into the river and sucked it out a mile or two downstream to treat and put into supply.

 

I suspect that part of the NZ problem is the fact that there is no national water system and no national rivers protection authority. With every council paddling it's own canoe as far as water etc goes it is not really a recipe for the application of universal standards and methods across NZ.

 

 

Not sure if part of the answer is that last time I was in Europe, farmers seemed to be able to do okay with a very small herd of cows, perhaps 50 or so, grazing on pasture in summer, in sheds in winter.  It was a very different picture than the old "family farm" here.  That farm is now one owner, 2400 cows, extremely industrial, Filipino workers because kiwis are "too lazy" apparently to want to work 60-80 hours for only 40 hours minimum wage.  Actually, that level of intensification would one have been a good income and lifestyle to support about 20 NZ farming families, sharemilkers or small lot farmers.

 

I shudder.  Not sure what NZ can do - we need the money, apparently, the European farmer is heavily subsidised - and they are our competition.


120 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 46


  Reply # 1862569 12-Sep-2017 01:11
Send private message

After a quick bit of inspect element, here's the links that Al Jazeera have embedded here

 

Part one

 

Part two


11552 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5263

Trusted

  Reply # 1862600 12-Sep-2017 06:59
Send private message

@Wiggum following some of your posts in other threads ou may find these videos interesting and informative




Mike
Retired IT Manager. 
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 

 It's our only home, lets clean it up then...

 

Take My Advice, Pull Down Your Pants And Slide On The Ice!

 

 


11552 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5263

Trusted

  Reply # 1862605 12-Sep-2017 07:43
Send private message

Geektastic:

It would be interesting to see how European nations manage to have dairying and clean(er) rivers.


 


I used to work for one of the large water and sewage companies in the UK and I recall one of the engineers saying that they could actually take the discharge water from the sewage plant and use it as intake water for the water treatment plant, but the public perception would be that they could not, so they discharged the sewage plant water into the river and sucked it out a mile or two downstream to treat and put into supply.


I suspect that part of the NZ problem is the fact that there is no national water system and no national rivers protection authority. With every council paddling it's own canoe as far as water etc goes it is not really a recipe for the application of universal standards and methods across NZ.



It does not take much research to reveal that the UK and Europe is not better if not worse.




Mike
Retired IT Manager. 
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 

 It's our only home, lets clean it up then...

 

Take My Advice, Pull Down Your Pants And Slide On The Ice!

 

 


 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

New Zealand's IT industry in 2018 and beyond
Posted 22-Jan-2018 12:50


Introducing your new workplace headache: Gen Z
Posted 22-Jan-2018 12:45


Jucy set to introduce electric campervan fleet
Posted 22-Jan-2018 12:41


Hawaiki cable system will be ready for service in June 2018
Posted 22-Jan-2018 12:32


New Zealand hits peak broadband data
Posted 18-Jan-2018 12:21


Amazon Echo devices coming to New Zealand early February 2018
Posted 18-Jan-2018 10:53


$3.74 million for new electric vehicles in New Zealand
Posted 17-Jan-2018 11:27


Nova 2i: Value, not excitement from Huawei
Posted 17-Jan-2018 09:02


Less news in Facebook News Feed revamp
Posted 15-Jan-2018 13:15


Australian Government contract awarded to Datacom Connect
Posted 11-Jan-2018 08:37


Why New Zealand needs a chief technology officer
Posted 6-Jan-2018 13:59


Amazon release Silk Browser and Firefox for Fire TV
Posted 21-Dec-2017 13:42


New Chief Technology Officer role created
Posted 19-Dec-2017 22:18


All I want for Christmas is a new EV
Posted 19-Dec-2017 19:54


How clever is this: AI will create 2.3 million jobs by 2020
Posted 19-Dec-2017 19:52



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.