When did we become America

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#223208 19-Sep-2017 13:32

I've been reading new articles in the last few days about the pipeline leak which is causing issues at Auckland airport. What annoys me is multiple news agencies referring to there being a "gas" shortage. When did we change from using the word fuel to gas, and no they are not talking about natural gas.

To me the term gas sounds lazy and could be confusing to people.... I must be getting grumpier as I get older.

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#1868569 19-Sep-2017 13:34

Apparently there's a gas pipeline that runs alongside the broken (liquid) one, but there's nothing wrong with it, and working fine.

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#1868577 19-Sep-2017 13:46

Aviation fuel = Avgas or JetA1 So using the term gas in this case could be correct

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#1868578 19-Sep-2017 13:46

@BTR, while you were away on your last vacation, we quietly became American. God bless the USA. God bless the President.

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#1868581 19-Sep-2017 13:52

I struggle to see a second pipe used for gas.

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#1868648 19-Sep-2017 15:12

Ask Jumpin Jack Flash

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#1868712 19-Sep-2017 16:07

RunningMan:

Apparently there's a gas pipeline that runs alongside the broken (liquid) one, but there's nothing wrong with it, and working fine.

there is only 1 pipeline, all the fuels use the same line

http://www.refiningnz.com/visitors--learning/classroom--learning-resources/learning-centre/how-it-works---the-refining-process/refinery-auckland-pipeline.aspx

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#1868713 19-Sep-2017 16:16

MikeB4:

Aviation fuel = Avgas or JetA1 So using the term gas in this case could be correct

I have to stand by the OP on the this one. There is such a thing as Avgas but it is not leaking from a pipeline and the media are defaulting to an American sounding term which is making them incorrect in this case.

AvGas and JetA1 are quite different.

Avgas is petrol based and used in spark-plug/piston engines.

JetA1/Avtur etc is kerosene based and (with a few exceptions) is only suitable for gas turbine engines.

They are as different as petrol and diesel, which brings me to the term "Aviation Fuel" - that is a cover all bases term as specific as "Automotive Fuel" - is that petrol, diesel LPG or CNG?

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#1868718 19-Sep-2017 16:20

MikeB4:

Aviation fuel = Avgas or JetA1 So using the term gas in this case could be correct

Actually, Avgas is not JetA1.

Avgas is 100 octane petrol, formulated to aircraft fuel standards.

JetA1 is jet fuel (kerosene), aka Avtur. That is apparently what was flowing down the pipeline when it failed.

So "gas" still isn't correct.

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#1868726 19-Sep-2017 16:33

Gas, trunk, hood, coca-cola, this country has been part of America since the milk bar era.

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#1868731 19-Sep-2017 16:39

Do you call them fuel stations or gas stations?

Therein lies the answer

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#1868742 19-Sep-2017 16:40

probably ever since Telecom had to setup a divert for calls made to 911 to 111.

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#1868743 19-Sep-2017 16:42

sen8or:

Do you call them fuel stations or gas stations?

Therein lies the answer

petrol station

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#1868748 19-Sep-2017 16:47

English is a mixed evolving language. Should we stop french words being used as English e.g depot, chic, chauffeur or German words eg hamburger, pretzel ?

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#1868757 19-Sep-2017 16:56

Bah, never mind the language, it's the ever Americanised culture I don't like.

I say, "Petrol Station!!" (but I admit I can't master the kiwi pronunciation of garage)

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#1868785 19-Sep-2017 17:14

MikeB4:

English is a mixed evolving language. Should we stop french words being used as English e.g depot, chic, chauffeur or German words eg hamburger, pretzel ?

IMHO we should look to England the the correct way to use English.

German and French are each a language, American isn't. AFAIK a hamburger is a hamburger in any language but in America a biscuit is not a biscuit and a kiwi is a little furry fruit.

Butchering the language is one of the ways a country shows it's independence from it's former imperial masters, which is how English became such a mixed bag in the first place and why the Americans were never shy about coming up with their own spellings and meanings.

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