Has anyone lived (or even if you have traveled) in Georgia or Russia (that part near border)?

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#250652 20-May-2019 15:52

I have a girl friend, I met her traveling, we have grown closer over time. She is an amazing human being, and if you are shallow she is probably a 9.5/10, I just like her eyes (and a couple of other things).

She wants me to move to be with her, she lives in Georgia but works across the border in Russia (not the same thing apparently).

Is Russia as dodgy as the US movies and TV make it out to be?

I look at her photos and its clean and beautiful and modern, so I am a bit conflicted. Im getting on as far as men for my age wanting babies. Im also sapiosexual so takes me ages to find someone with my old fashioned values and a personality that conflicts that by being cheeky (she is a fair bit less lol).

Anyway I just wonder what I would do for money?

But firstly just want to know if its image is mostly Propaganda? I lived in Germany for 3 years and I can tell you its image from the US/UK is very much propaganda by the movies etc.

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#2241617 20-May-2019 16:00

just go for a short visit if you're too scared to make a big move.

Start with main city and make you journey to the place she lives at.

Georgia is great, but could be very traditional in terms of life values.

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#2241620 20-May-2019 16:04

Russia and Georgia have a very uneasy truce, with lines constantly moving,

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/lens/living-on-the-shifting-border-of-georgia-and-russia.html

What are your options to get her to come here?

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#2241621 20-May-2019 16:05

^^^^

You would be insane to even consider doing it without going and seeing for yourself a few times.

Make some trips, see Georgia, cross the border, go in the summer and in the winter, meet her family and friends and get a first-hand feel for the place.

General advice on the country and the region may give you some broad ideas, but without significant firsthand experience, you can never be sure if it might work for you.

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#2241623 20-May-2019 16:07

To add - and generalise - Russia is a big, scary unpredictable beast with a very dubious stance on human rights, personal and political freedoms and international relationships.

I would love to visit for a short while, but don't think I would ever want to live in it, or in any counties on its borders who could end up either on the menu or caught in the cross-fire...

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#2241629 20-May-2019 16:15

Ping @brucehoult.

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#2241670 20-May-2019 16:23

wellygary:

Russia and Georgia have a very uneasy truce, with lines constantly moving,

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/lens/living-on-the-shifting-border-of-georgia-and-russia.html

What are your options to get her to come here?

She would come definitely but we assumed its not possible as we have not lived together for a year etc.

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#2241676 20-May-2019 16:32

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To add - and generalise - Russia is a big, scary unpredictable beast with a very dubious stance on human rights, personal and political freedoms and international relationships.

I would love to visit for a short while, but don't think I would ever want to live in it, or in any counties on its borders who could end up either on the menu or caught in the cross-fire...

I got that wrong, she is from Russia. Not Georgia. I dont know why i thought that but i just asked her as she woke up and told me off lol.

I have strong feelings for her but with no visa options for women from Russia in NZ we are screwed.

Values, wow they are backward lol, in her home town they arrange marriages, well did, not so much now. She doesnt sleep around etc, could count less than half a hand of men in that regard and I knew that before I was interested in her, actually its her values that make up the majority of why I fell for her. She is also a very loving person, and makes you feel it, her English is good but thick Russian accent.

She is in Hotel work, basically manages front desk but also basically everything to do with customers.

I tried our visa site but I drew up a big painful blank.

It takes me forever to find people I am able to like romantically. NZ women largely dont do it for me (there are some nice ones with good values dont get me wrong, have some quality female friends). Especially the sorts like that blonde chick off that Island love show, the skank who thinks she is all that when she is not really half way pretty and has the worst values and principals, I know its made to be that way but you can tell she thinks more of herself than others.

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#2241688 20-May-2019 16:38

Is it not that if you both get married and the marriage is seen as genuine in the first place then she can get a spouse visa to come to NZ and once you have spent a fair bit of time together here (12+ months) then you can apply for her residency?

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#2241691 20-May-2019 16:40

billgates:

Is it not that if you both get married and the marriage is seen as genuine in the first place then she can get a spouse visa to come to NZ and once you have spent a fair bit of time together here (12+ months) then you can apply for her residency?

no regardless of marriage you have to have spent 12 months living together (im pretty sure i read that correctly)

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#2241712 20-May-2019 17:01

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To add - and generalise - Russia is a big, scary unpredictable beast with a very dubious stance on human rights, personal and political freedoms and international relationships.

I would love to visit for a short while, but don't think I would ever want to live in it, or in any counties on its borders who could end up either on the menu or caught in the cross-fire...

holy moly. some generalisation and propaganda here :D

see it first, and make judgments later.

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#2241714 20-May-2019 17:11

kobiak:

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To add - and generalise - Russia is a big, scary unpredictable beast with a very dubious stance on human rights, personal and political freedoms and international relationships.

I would love to visit for a short while, but don't think I would ever want to live in it, or in any counties on its borders who could end up either on the menu or caught in the cross-fire...

holy moly. some generalisation and propaganda here :D

see it first, and make judgments later.

Totally agree some people on here have made some similar types of generalizations about the UAE. As someone living in the UAE the reality is quite different to the media stories.

I haven't been to either but Georgia is a very popular holiday destination from the UAE and almost universally popular.

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#2241728 20-May-2019 17:34

Sorry if this sounds a bit mercenary, but ...

If ever you want a government-sector job in any of the 5-eyes countries - including NZ, of course - or any of the NATO countries, and that job needs a security clearance, then having a Russian spouse / partner / long-term girlfriend is almost certainly "yeah ... nah", or just "nah". Georgia, ditto.
Same would apply for a job with a firm contracting into one of these sensitive government areas

Sorry

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#2241735 20-May-2019 17:45

PolicyGuy:

Sorry if this sounds a bit mercenary, but ...

If ever you want a government-sector job in any of the 5-eyes countries - including NZ, of course - or any of the NATO countries, and that job needs a security clearance, then having a Russian spouse / partner / long-term girlfriend is almost certainly "yeah ... nah", or just "nah". Georgia, ditto.
Same would apply for a job with a firm contracting into one of these sensitive government areas

Sorry

huh? I've got couple mates working in wellington (one girl worked in parliament) for NZ government. I know Russian cops, some in the army too.

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#2241757 20-May-2019 18:13

kobiak:

huh? I've got couple mates working in wellington (one girl worked in parliament) for NZ government. I know Russian cops, some in the army too.

Lol Kobiak Im glad you said what I was thinking.

If she is my wife then I dont see how her travelling to Aus with me is an issue. Neither of us will ever work in Government so thats a non issue.

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#2241758 20-May-2019 18:13

That's weird. My (American) wife and I communicated online for six months, then she came here on holiday and was able to get a work visa under the partnership category. We had never lived together before she arrived - yet she got the visa, then residency, then permanent residency. Today she has dual citizenship. Maybe the rules changed since 2004?

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/options/live-permanently/explore-visa-options-for-living-permanently

(I think she may have come in under the Skilled Migrant category, from memory).

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