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# 251638 4-Jul-2019 12:59
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I'm currently looking at this item in Amazon

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NP2Y82Q/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A17NP4YF0AAQ6C&psc=1

 

Price: $262.00 + $7.62 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to New Zealand Details
If you click Details

 

Shipping & Fee Details Price   $262.00 AmazonGlobal Shipping + $7.62 Estimated Import Fees Deposit + $0.00 Total   $269.62

 

Earlier as I remembered, they estimate all the tax, fees, import duties and we pay at the time of ordering. But for the above item, it looks like there is no Estimated Import Fees Deposit. I checked with Amazon they said they Amazon Sales experts decided that fees based on the country they shipping. And if the actual charge is higher than the estimated charge, that is paid by amazon.

 

So in this case shipping cost is 7.62 and no import fees.

 

But when I check the calculator in https://www.customs.govt.nz/personal/duty-and-gst/whats-my-duty-estimator/ 

 

I get the below calculation

 

Item 1 Mobiles Original value 262.00 USD NZ Value @0.64 exchange rate 409.38 NZD Duty @0.00 0.00 NZD GST @15% 61.41 NZD

 

Item duty 61.41 NZD

 

Freight 7.62 USD GST on freight 1.79 NZD

 

Sub total 63.20 NZD

 

Entry fees 55.71 NZD

 

Total to pay $118.91

 

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Which means I have to pay 118.91 NZD in total. But Amazon says they estimate import taxes, customs duties, and fees charged by the destination country. So I assume that should include at least $55.71 of entree fee, assuming GST to be paid by the buyer. 

 

So according to Amazon agreement, once the item received and finds out estimated fees are below the actual fee, they should pay $55.71? And buyer just need to pay $63.20 of GST only?

 

Any clues or has anyone being in a similar situation?

 

Thanks,

 

Eranda.

 

 


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  # 2269901 4-Jul-2019 13:57
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262 USD is sitting on the cusp of the $400NZD level that triggers a $60 GST liability on an otherwise Duty free import.-

 

Customs will likely use a lower cross rate than Amazon so that is likely to push it over the limit, and thus slug you with the GST ( and therefore trigger the ~$50 NZD of MPI and other charges)..

 

If Amazon stick $260 USD on the value and customs decide to check it, you are likely to get slugged with the full $110 NZD in GST and fees,  - and you will have to pay them before they release your parcel....

 

 

 

I would budget on having to pay the fees, -

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2269956 4-Jul-2019 15:31
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GoranZ:

 

Why not just buy it for $399 NZD ... 

 

https://www.dicksmith.co.nz/dn/buy/motorola-moto-g7-64gb-black-motorola/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_listing_ads&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpPHoBRC3ARIsALfx-_JKpftrFws8xsLafJZJMQNWhX85TMAw1Lb0RqQN4WsRikNHaumcsg4aAuWXEALw_wcB

 

 

 

Probably get it a lot faster too .. 

 

 

 

 

The DSE specs don't show LTE band 28 which is a must around here.   This seems common with  a lot of the DSE phones where as the Amazon one does have band 28. 





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  # 2269972 4-Jul-2019 15:46
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old3eyes:

 

The DSE specs don't show LTE band 28 which is a must around here.   This seems common with  a lot of the DSE phones where as the Amazon one does have band 28. 

 

 

The DSE one says B28 (700Mhz) .. so should be good for Band 28 on Vodafone

 

Connectivity

 

2G NetworkGSM: 2/3/5/8

 

3G NetworkCDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10 | WCDMA: 1/2/4/5/8

 

4G NetworkFDD LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/66 | TDD LTE: 38/40/41 | B28(700)

 

 




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  # 2270002 4-Jul-2019 16:15
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GoranZ:

old3eyes:


The DSE specs don't show LTE band 28 which is a must around here.   This seems common with  a lot of the DSE phones where as the Amazon one does have band 28. 



The DSE one says B28 (700Mhz) .. so should be good for Band 28 on Vodafone


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2G NetworkGSM: 2/3/5/8
3G NetworkCDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10 | WCDMA: 1/2/4/5/8
4G NetworkFDD LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/66 | TDD LTE: 38/40/41 | B28(700)

 



I think that is for Moto G7, not for Moto G7 Plus. Anyway I have asked about that from DSE, waiting for an reply.

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  # 2270004 4-Jul-2019 16:22
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GoranZ:

 

old3eyes:

 

The DSE specs don't show LTE band 28 which is a must around here.   This seems common with  a lot of the DSE phones where as the Amazon one does have band 28. 

 

 

The DSE one says B28 (700Mhz) .. so should be good for Band 28 on Vodafone

 

Connectivity 2G NetworkGSM: 2/3/5/8 3G NetworkCDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10 | WCDMA: 1/2/4/5/8 4G NetworkFDD LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/66 | TDD LTE: 38/40/41 | B28(700)

 

 

 

 

Thanx.  





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  # 2270014 4-Jul-2019 17:01
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GoranZ:

 

Why not just buy it for $399 NZD ... 

 

https://www.dicksmith.co.nz/dn/buy/motorola-moto-g7-64gb-black-motorola/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_listing_ads&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpPHoBRC3ARIsALfx-_JKpftrFws8xsLafJZJMQNWhX85TMAw1Lb0RqQN4WsRikNHaumcsg4aAuWXEALw_wcB

 

 

 

Probably get it a lot faster too .. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

unless delivery is free it would push it over the $400?


 
 
 
 


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  # 2270106 4-Jul-2019 18:42
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262 USD is sitting on the cusp of the $400NZD level that triggers a $60 GST liability on an otherwise Duty free import.-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Amazing how weak the NZ dollar has become compared to the USD. It wasn't too many years ago when they even talked about it reaching parity. Has really affected what people are now able to import, especially when buying from sites like Amazon. 


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  # 2270110 4-Jul-2019 18:56
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Sign up for a free Amazon prime trial and wait until next Monday's Prime day. Might be a discount that keeps it away from the limit.





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  # 2270120 4-Jul-2019 19:28
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tigercorp: Sign up for a free Amazon prime trial and wait until next Monday's Prime day. Might be a discount that keeps it away from the limit.

 

The standard price is what counts for the declaration value in many cases to stop people scamming it by selling the thing cheap if you buy some other non taxable thing like a membership. That is why they have the fees kick in on many things that are well away from $400. I have had the refund in all cases thankfully.





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  # 2270124 4-Jul-2019 19:40
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mattwnz:

 

wellygary:

 

262 USD is sitting on the cusp of the $400NZD level that triggers a $60 GST liability on an otherwise Duty free import.-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Amazing how weak the NZ dollar has become compared to the USD. It wasn't too many years ago when they even talked about it reaching parity. Has really affected what people are now able to import, especially when buying from sites like Amazon. 

 

 

If you're to look back over the past 20 years the current price of .66 is by no means weak - it sits around about a long term average. Parity with the USD could never happen - I think you're confused about parity with the AUD which has nearly happened on a couple of occasions in recent years.

 

USD-NZD has to be weighted up against out export driven economy, the higher it goes the worse things get for many NZ businesses.

 

 

 

 


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  # 2270168 4-Jul-2019 21:52
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Something has changed Amazon normally kick in import fees at USD$224 it seems everything is now not showing import fees.




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  # 2270169 4-Jul-2019 21:54
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sqishy:

Something has changed Amazon normally kick in import fees at USD$224 it seems everything is now not showing import fees.



Exactly that's what I thought. I had a chat with Amazon representative as well, they don't see that as unusual.

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  # 2270170 4-Jul-2019 22:08
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You should probably buy it, I think they will pick-up mistake overnight.




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  # 2270171 4-Jul-2019 22:32
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sqishy:

You should probably buy it, I think they will pick-up mistake overnight.



But I it will catch at the customs anyway. GST is calculated as $63, and I have to pay $118. Then it is almost the same as buying here in NZ.

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