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Topic # 85622 22-Jun-2011 15:17
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I'm designing a new wardrobe system for my room, which will be a series of cupboards, shelves, drawers, rods, etc, taking up an entire wall of my bedroom.

I'd like to make a scale 2D diagram to show the builder what I want, including key measurements. Photoshop's a pita, it's not made for it. It can't easily do shapes that can be resized, and it can't do sizes. I considered a free CAD tool like Cadema or QCad, but the learning curve seems quite steep given the short and one off nature of what i'm doing.

Can anyone recommend another system, package, or website that would make this easier? Pen and paper might be the easiest way, but i'd prefer electronic if it's not too difficult.




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  Reply # 484429 22-Jun-2011 15:23
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Google Sketchup - free!
Recommend you do the first training video (it's youtube), and you will know everything you need to get started.

http://sketchup.google.com/

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  Reply # 484430 22-Jun-2011 15:23
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sketchup?

edit: LOL, geez I'm slow!

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  Reply # 484435 22-Jun-2011 15:30
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Solid edge 2d

http://www.plm.automation.siemens.com/en_us/products/velocity/solidedge/free2d/

I used it to do the floorplan for my kitchen then imported it into google sketchup to do the 3d model.



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  Reply # 484436 22-Jun-2011 15:30
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I did read about Sketchup after a google search, but the impression I got was it was more a 3D modelling tool than for simple 2D diagrams. Is it ok for basic 2D diagrams like this, floor plan type stuff?




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  Reply # 484440 22-Jun-2011 15:34
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Ease of use is pretty important! I don't want to spend a day learning to use it, I just want to get a basic diagram done.

How are Solid edge 2d and Google Sketchup for that?




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timmmay: I did read about Sketchup after a google search, but the impression I got was it was more a 3D modelling tool than for simple 2D diagrams. Is it ok for basic 2D diagrams like this, floor plan type stuff?


Give it a go. I think you'll find it'll do the job just fine. 

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  Reply # 484444 22-Jun-2011 15:36
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+1 SketchUp




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  Reply # 484447 22-Jun-2011 15:38
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Ok looks like Sketchup is the consensus. I'll give it a go at home tonight, thanks everyone :)




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  Reply # 484454 22-Jun-2011 15:45
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timmmay: Ease of use is pretty important! I don't want to spend a day learning to use it, I just want to get a basic diagram done.

How are Solid edge 2d and Google Sketchup for that?


Its not too hard but then I was already familiar with using cad software. From memory I think it has some quite useful help. Wont cost anything to try it and it is very good at the 2d drawings you are after.

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  Reply # 484522 22-Jun-2011 17:27
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timmmay: Ok looks like Sketchup is the consensus. I'll give it a go at home tonight, thanks everyone :)


Definitely do the first tutorial. It packs a lot of information into a short video.

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  Reply # 484577 22-Jun-2011 19:13
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Um excel?

Make the squares small, then use the border to define the lines.

scale = 1 cell = x mm and away you go....




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  Reply # 484646 22-Jun-2011 20:47
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mentalinc: Um excel?

Make the squares small, then use the border to define the lines.

scale = 1 cell = x mm and away you go....


That's not a bad idea, you know.

In Excel, you can use the drawing tools (line drawing) and snap to grid.
In versions 2007 and above the drawing tools are a bit more painful, in that you need a few extra clicks per action.




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  Reply # 484696 22-Jun-2011 22:07
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Using a 3D tool like Sketchup for 2D design feels a bit weird. It looks like a great 3D tool, but I suspect some other traditional CAD tool will do better for what i'm trying to achieve. Thanks for the ideas though :)




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  Reply # 484742 22-Jun-2011 23:30
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If you are familiar with AutoCad then there is a free clone of it available called DoubleCad XT - very good for 2D stuff.

Bit of a learning curve though if you haven't used AutoCad before. 



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  Reply # 484743 22-Jun-2011 23:39
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I've never used any CAD before, it'll take time to get the concepts and learn a tool. Even saying thus is how big the model is in mm, and how big the features are isn't obvious.




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