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#904124 28-Sep-2013 12:57

hio77: onto a more easy going topic for the night, sam, considering snap themselves are suggesting people not use the .55 firmware due to issues with certain line cards, fair to say.. throw something up not recommending it?

Yeah, been waiting for a consensus to build on this one, but it looks like we have one - .55 is rubbish! :)

I'll put something up this avo.

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#904127 28-Sep-2013 13:00

stevehodge:
hio77: onto a more easy going topic for the night, sam, considering snap themselves are suggesting people not use the .55 firmware due to issues with certain line cards, fair to say.. throw something up not recommending it?

when i spoke to snap CSRs about it, they hadnt made the link between low attention and the firmware that we are pretty sure about here, but in their testing the .55 firmware was confirmed to have speed issues and port blocking issues (not cleanly closing the dsl sync and somehow confusing the line card into thinking its still up).

Have they officially said not to use it? I didn't find anything about it on the website.

their CSRs highly advise downgrading, they have a guide on it and all too. dont think its an offical DO NOT USE case yet though... looking at the recent connections, they are shipping fritzboxes with the .55 firmware still so draw conclusions from that.

next time i speak to their CSRs ill ask of the exact state in it..

stevehodge:

on another note, the rollback firmware has telnet enabled too.. handy..

Where is the rollback firmware?

firmware(7390) -> ftp://service.avm.de/Downgrade/FRITZ!Box%20Fon%20WLAN%207390/english/

and AVMs guide -> http://service.avm.de/support/en/SKB/FRITZ-Box-7390-int/761:Installing-an-older-version-of-the-FRITZ-Box-firmware-downgrade

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#904129 28-Sep-2013 13:05

SamF:
hio77: onto a more easy going topic for the night, sam, considering snap themselves are suggesting people not use the .55 firmware due to issues with certain line cards, fair to say.. throw something up not recommending it?

Yeah, been waiting for a consensus to build on this one, but it looks like we have one - .55 is rubbish! :)

I'll put something up this avo.

yep, i supported the .55 firmware at first.. but seeing the issues it has bought up (lower syncs, port blocking, inconsistency in stats)

hopefully AVM put out a better firmware at some point.. all the good features without the issues..

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#904131 28-Sep-2013 13:13

hio77:

their CSRs highly advise downgrading, they have a guide on it and all too. dont think its an offical DO NOT USE case yet though... looking at the recent connections, they are shipping fritzboxes with the .55 firmware still so draw conclusions from that.

next time i speak to their CSRs ill ask of the exact state in it..

I won't be surprised if they do advise say not to use it. I'm glad I didn't upgrade.

hio77:
stevehodge:

on another note, the rollback firmware has telnet enabled too.. handy..

Where is the rollback firmware?

firmware(7390) -> ftp://service.avm.de/Downgrade/FRITZ!Box%20Fon%20WLAN%207390/english/

and AVMs guide -> http://service.avm.de/support/en/SKB/FRITZ-Box-7390-int/761:Installing-an-older-version-of-the-FRITZ-Box-firmware-downgrade

Thanks, I knew about those links but I think you're saying that the .22 firmware there has telnet enabled while the .22 firmware installed by Snap does not. Is that right?

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#904134 28-Sep-2013 13:19

Damn, and I was considering trying an an update to see if it resolved an issue I'm having with VOIP - my internet slows way down (practically stopping) while on a VOIP call through the fritzbox. I've tried removing the Telephony QoS rule but it didn't make any difference.

What's the difference between .55 and .51?

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#904137 28-Sep-2013 13:26

stevehodge:
hio77:

their CSRs highly advise downgrading, they have a guide on it and all too. dont think its an offical DO NOT USE case yet though... looking at the recent connections, they are shipping fritzboxes with the .55 firmware still so draw conclusions from that.

next time i speak to their CSRs ill ask of the exact state in it..

I won't be surprised if they do advise say not to use it. I'm glad I didn't upgrade.

hio77:
stevehodge:

on another note, the rollback firmware has telnet enabled too.. handy..

Where is the rollback firmware?

firmware(7390) -> ftp://service.avm.de/Downgrade/FRITZ!Box%20Fon%20WLAN%207390/english/

and AVMs guide -> http://service.avm.de/support/en/SKB/FRITZ-Box-7390-int/761:Installing-an-older-version-of-the-FRITZ-Box-firmware-downgrade

Thanks, I knew about those links but I think you're saying that the .22 firmware there has telnet enabled while the .22 firmware installed by Snap does not. Is that right?

indeed, when i had the snap sent out 7390 on the .22 firmware, there was no telnetd included, but since downgrading, its still there

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#904138 28-Sep-2013 13:27

sidefx: Damn, and I was considering trying an an update to see if it resolved an issue I'm having with VOIP - my internet slows way down (practically stopping) while on a VOIP call through the fritzbox. I've tried removing the Telephony QoS rule but it didn't make any difference.

What's the difference between .55 and .51?

is the 51 the equivalent for the 7340 of the 55? i dont have .51 for the 7390..

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#904139 28-Sep-2013 13:29

Ah yes I think you're right.

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#904141 28-Sep-2013 13:34

sidefx: Ah yes I think you're right.

good to know..

if its any help though, VOIP hasnt altered my speeds at all.. (although we dont use VOIP all that oftern..)

is this a known issue? or isolated to just you?

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#904142 28-Sep-2013 13:35

So does the consensus & advice not to run .55 hold for the 7390 as well as the 7340?

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#904143 28-Sep-2013 13:38

hio77:

good to know..

if its any help though, VOIP hasnt altered my speeds at all.. (although we dont use VOIP all that oftern..)

is this a known issue? or isolated to just you?

Seems to just be me. I've posted about it before but noone seemed to have any ideas what might be causing it and I'm stumped as to how to diagnose the cause.

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#904144 28-Sep-2013 13:39

SamF: So does the consensus & advice not to run .55 hold for the 7390 as well as the 7340?

the CSRs call it the "new firmware" .51 and .51 seems to be the same, just for 7390 and the 7340 being the differenace there

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#904147 28-Sep-2013 13:45

sidefx:
hio77:

good to know..

if its any help though, VOIP hasnt altered my speeds at all.. (although we dont use VOIP all that oftern..)

is this a known issue? or isolated to just you?

Seems to just be me. I've posted about it before but noone seemed to have any ideas what might be causing it and I'm stumped as to how to diagnose the cause.

i take it you have tried restoring to stock and testing there to make sure its not some rule that was added somewhere along the lines?

check the cpu load of your fritz?

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#904167 28-Sep-2013 14:26

Doh, I think I found the cause. Under "Telephony->Own Telephone Numbers -> Line Settings" theres a setting "Use additional connection for Internet telephony via DSL (PVC)" which I'm sure I've never touched but for some reason it was ticked.

I've unchecked it and done a couple of quick tests and all seems fine now...

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#904168 28-Sep-2013 14:27

sidefx: Doh, I think I found the cause. Under "Telephony->Own Telephone Numbers -> Line Settings" theres a setting "Use additional connection for Internet telephony via DSL (PVC)" which I'm sure I've never touched but for some reason it was ticked.

I've unchecked it and done a couple of quick tests and all seems fine now...

thats always been ticked on mine..

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