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#2769807 1-Sep-2021 12:05

Here's an interesting presentation by Starlink on orbital space safety. I like the bit where it says "Low altitudes are self cleaning". If only everything was self cleaning.

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#2770288 1-Sep-2021 23:22

tim0001:
Here's an interesting presentation by Starlink on orbital space safety. I like the bit where it says "Low altitudes are self cleaning". If only everything was self cleaning.

Yes. LEO should see defunct satellites burn up in a year or two if their orbits aren't regularly maintained. The atmosphere is thin, but it steadily drags them down. My understanding is that SpaceX can also actively de-orbit satellites they still have control of that may otherwise fail for internet use.

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#2770700 2-Sep-2021 16:04

Just got an email to say our Starlink kit is ready for dispatch, service area is North Auckland / Rodney 😀

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#2770703 2-Sep-2021 16:19

OzoneNZ:

Just got an email to say our Starlink kit is ready for dispatch, service area is North Auckland / Rodney 😀

Me too, we could be in the same cell - Order confirmed, so excited!

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#2770706 2-Sep-2021 16:26

OzoneNZ:

Just got an email to say our Starlink kit is ready for dispatch, service area is North Auckland / Rodney 😀

Me too, also Rodney. I'm less excited, because it means I had to bite the bullet and request the refund. I haven't been able to come up with any reasonable way to bypass that hill to my south, now that I know that the Android app was buggy showing Dishy pointing north when I first tried it.

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#2770730 2-Sep-2021 18:05

sidney:
OzoneNZ:

Just got an email to say our Starlink kit is ready for dispatch, service area is North Auckland / Rodney 😀

Me too, also Rodney. I'm less excited, because it means I had to bite the bullet and request the refund. I haven't been able to come up with any reasonable way to bypass that hill to my south, now that I know that the Android app was buggy showing Dishy pointing north when I first tried it.

Another me too in the same.cell I presume (Waimauku)

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#2770739 2-Sep-2021 18:31

I've had my Dishy up and thriving for just over a week now, above Pakiri Beach.

I had concerns about a hill paddock to the south but Dishy has adopted a fiarly flat plane (maybe 10-15 degrees off horizontal) and has not reported any obstructions. So your concerns might not be as great as you think.

About cells: I pushed a few plus codes around the other night waiting for FedEx and NZ Post to do their thing. Looked to me that Leigh and Matakana and Omaha to my south were not open. Kawau Island however seemed to be. Wellsford to my west was not open but Mangawhai to my north seemed ok. FYI. It may have changed since then.

Menatime Farmside lies in a corner, probably still very sluggish but now unwanted and unused. Such a relief.

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#2770768 2-Sep-2021 19:45

Received mine yesterday. I didn't bother with the included router and hooked it straight up to my Ubiquiti USG. No issues and I setup a static route so the Apple and Android apps could connect straight to the dish. Not that you need to use the app as it just works seamlessly plug it in set your router to dhcp for its wan port and job done.

Initially had it on the lawn but then moved it to the roof today. Wanted to hide it from the ground for aesthetics. Challenging spot facing a hill and trees. App told me there would be problems on the fringes but figured I could work my way back if it didn't work. Well it did, or has so far. Have seen over 300mpbs and consistently over 200, 25 - 30 up and 70 to 90ms ping. Speedtest shows my location as Auckland not Sydney, so has Starlink changed some settings to at least reflect my actual location - even through I'm still popping out via Sydney?

If I was a rural broad band provider I'd be in a hurry to get out of that space. Have been reading multiple reports of Farmside etc customers who have had a guts full of oversubscribed underdelivering systems who are now giving them the the two fingered salute. To the good operators out there, you're going to somehow need to massively up your game somehow to survive what's coming. Annoys me a little to be honest, always want to support local but it grinds my gears that I prefer Bunnings over Mitre10!

As the dish faces South you can actually back it up quite close to a wall.

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#2770773 2-Sep-2021 20:00

iwilson:
As the dish faces South you can actually back it up quite close to a wall.

Just a subtle but important distinction (preaching to the choir here, most likely): it's actually not a satellite dish, it's a phased array antenna - so it doesn't need to point directly at a satellite to receive its signal. As such I'd keep it a short distance from your wall/overhang just to be safe, as you may still be blocking a small percentage of available satellite signals, not to mention reflected signals possibly messing with the phased array. But that's awesome and I totally agree. Can't wait to get mine.

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#2770797 2-Sep-2021 20:10

I believe it is 100-120deg FOV. Not a static point. So as it passes it takes ~5mins of coverage. Block the back end of that and you may reduce that.

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#2770798 2-Sep-2021 20:14

pih:
iwilson:

As the dish faces South you can actually back it up quite close to a wall.

Just a subtle but important distinction (preaching to the choir here, most likely): it's actually not a satellite dish, it's a phased array antenna - so it doesn't need to point directly at a satellite to receive its signal. As such I'd keep it a short distance from your wall/overhang just to be safe, as you may still be blocking a small percentage of available satellite signals, not to mention reflected signals possibly messing with the phased array. But that's awesome and I totally agree. Can't wait to get mine.

lol, I'm an ex-Army radio operator so well versed with dipole's, log-periodic's, rhombic's etc, etc. I just didn't want to cause any confusion by referring to it as a phased array. 😂 I've started at my most preferred location and am happy to work my way back depending on results. I've worked NZ to the UK on military exercises using less than 20 watts on HF when the ionosphere played nice.

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#2770799 2-Sep-2021 20:21

Oblivian:

^^

I believe it is 100-120deg FOV. Not a static point. So as it passes it takes ~5mins of coverage. Block the back end of that and you may reduce that.

Yes, I'm wondering how clever it is at working out if an obstruction exists and accounting for it when switching satellites. As far as the back goes (north), the app showed nothing and I allowed a little extra. Proof is in the pudding, so far (6 hours), the internet has been rock solid. My test bunnies - two kids on their Xboxes have reported only one brief lag spike. For some reason they've offered to continue testing for as long as I'll let them. 😂

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#2770873 3-Sep-2021 08:20

Rural Post finally has mine, but can’t deliver it today as there’s not enough room in his little 4x4 Suzuki. He said there’s so many deliveries for all the lockdown online orders that they’re overwhelmed with packages :(

Soooo… now next week maybe? Feeling a bit gutted :(

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#2771022 3-Sep-2021 09:55

@Dynamike thats very disappointing.

Reminds me of a few weeks ago when our postie arrived saying she didn’t have room for all our parcels. I was gutted when she said that. However on inspection it turned out that she had our Dishy and it was our neighbour that missed out on their Dishy.

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#2771175 3-Sep-2021 12:00

Hi guys - I have a client who have the misfortune of literally being the boarder of the Government UFB Map. Enable refuse to do anything even though either side of their front gate is a business with fibre and a housing development with fibre to each section. Even getting a 4G connection has issues due to the location and I suspect tower loading.

They have Copper ADSL and its at the lower end of ADSL performance.

We've been talking about Starlink - How have those who have it how found it??

The client currently has an internal exchange server so will need Port 25 inbound but only for a very short time as the minute they have some competent internet I'm going to move them onto 365 for email and Sharepoint for documents - In fact we could leave the ADSL for inbound connections until the migration is complete but its a small site so pretty quick.

Does anyone have any indications it would be less stable than ADSL?? I can't see it and infact with their email offsite short outages would be less of a burden as they can get email on phones and hotspot if required.

I guess I'm looking for any reasons they shouldn't do it??

(PS - They have digger operators and have offered to do all the trenching to the gate etc. I haven't been lobbying as such and possibly it could be pushed but I'm expecting there would still be huge costs passed on and its really a 3-4 user office)

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