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#1225875 31-Jan-2015 13:30

Detruire: Via APE or AKL-IX.

CallPlus have SLA for their Vocus connection and so do Cloudflare (also Vocus customer), better than going thru a best efforts internet exchange point. Vocus on-net traffic likely not charged for both parties - win win. Only better path would be a direct bilateral peering.

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#1225883 31-Jan-2015 14:04

And back to Aussie again. Perhaps related to the change that was affecting BigPipe?

Tracing route to www.cloudflare.com.cdn.cloudflare.net [198.41.215.163]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1    1 ms      5 ms     1 ms Broadcom.Home [192.168.1.1]
2    10 ms    7 ms    12 ms v3.cpcwn2-bng1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.0.98]
3    14 ms    13 ms    15 ms ae-5-10.cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.47]
4    16 ms    18 ms    17 ms ae-4-10.cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.46]
5    21 ms    15 ms    17 ms ad-cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.163]
6    19 ms    18 ms    18 ms 121.99.12.73
7    41 ms    40 ms    38 ms as4610.nsw.ix.asn.au [218.100.52.94]
8    37 ms    44 ms    50 ms as13335.nsw.ix.asn.au [218.100.52.11]
9    42 ms    39 ms    39 ms www.cloudflare.com [198.41.215.163]

Trace complete.

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#1225884 31-Jan-2015 14:05

Yes, I think it is related to the Vocus fault.

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#1225885 31-Jan-2015 14:06

freitasm: Vodafone must be moving something... Or who knows what, because they are now sending Cloudflare requests to Singapore again (150ms) instead of Sydney (45ms).

My 10Mbps SNAP DSL connection loads Geekzone (and other sites) faster than my 130Mbps Vodafone cable.

Seems only on cable, still routing to Sydney on VF dsl.

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#1225886 31-Jan-2015 14:16

Two different networks.

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#1225896 31-Jan-2015 14:26

freitasm: Two different networks.

Are there good reasons why they don't route, etc., the same way?

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#1225898 31-Jan-2015 14:27

Different contracts, configurations, at different times from different companies (Vodafone, TelstraClear).

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#1226044 31-Jan-2015 21:25

Anyone know how much traffic cloudflare are looking to push through. I suspect if it was a large enough number then the big boys would be interested. But so far it looks pretty small.

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#1226046 31-Jan-2015 21:31

My guess is this information would be only available inside the company...

Who else (medium/large sites) use Cloudflare in New Zealand? Is there a list somewhere?

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#1226049 31-Jan-2015 21:43

Ok, found a download with a list of Cloudflare domains (list by a watchdog that tracks those to keep eyes on bad guys hiding behind reverse proxies)... Anyway, they list 1,327 .co.nz domains with Cloudflare and from a quick look around the file, it seems Geekzone is the largest one by miles.

I'd say if Cloudflare has NZ traffic it is mainly for overseas-based traffic and Geekzone. Here is ours:

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#1227464 2-Feb-2015 10:13

From my RBI Wireless connection
http://www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz/rbi-wireless.html

Tracing route to geekzone.co.nz [162.159.243.82]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 4 ms 9 ms 9 ms homerouter.cpe [192.168.7.1]
2 52 ms 59 ms 60 ms 129.231.143.49.static.amuri.net [49.143.231.129]
3 77 ms 59 ms 59 ms 149.228.143.49.static.amuri.net [49.143.228.149]
4 60 ms 79 ms 69 ms TenGigabitEthernet0-2-0-264.wnwnr-rt1.fx.net.nz [131.203.253.193]
5 73 ms 89 ms 79 ms TenGigabitEthernet0-3-0-325.aknnr-rt1.fx.net.nz [131.203.111.126]
6 75 ms 79 ms 79 ms cloudflare.ape.nzix.net [192.203.154.51]
7 77 ms 79 ms 79 ms 162.159.243.82

Trace complete.

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#1227670 2-Feb-2015 13:14

Detruire: And back to Aussie again. Perhaps related to the change that was affecting BigPipe?

Tracing route to www.cloudflare.com.cdn.cloudflare.net [198.41.215.163]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1    1 ms      5 ms     1 ms Broadcom.Home [192.168.1.1]
2    10 ms    7 ms    12 ms v3.cpcwn2-bng1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.0.98]
3    14 ms    13 ms    15 ms ae-5-10.cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.47]
4    16 ms    18 ms    17 ms ae-4-10.cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.46]
5    21 ms    15 ms    17 ms ad-cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.163]
6    19 ms    18 ms    18 ms 121.99.12.73
7    41 ms    40 ms    38 ms as4610.nsw.ix.asn.au [218.100.52.94]
8    37 ms    44 ms    50 ms as13335.nsw.ix.asn.au [218.100.52.11]
9    42 ms    39 ms    39 ms www.cloudflare.com [198.41.215.163]

Trace complete.

Being fixed soon! Just waiting change approvals etc

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#1231288 4-Feb-2015 18:08

One thing to bare in mind is that although Cloudflare is peered at the Auckland Peering Exchange (APE), an ISP is still required to contact them directly to establish a bilateral peering session to get any of their CDN content.

In other words, just because an ISP is on APE doesn't guarantee that their traffic will be going to Cloudflare's Auckland pop.

In other news, Orcon is now working.


traceroute to www.geekzone.co.nz (162.159.242.82), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1 myrouter (192.168.1.254) 0.151 ms 0.189 ms 0.181 ms
 2 60-234-16-125.bitstream.orcon.net.nz (60.234.16.125) 0.640 ms 0.623 ms 0.615 ms
 3 cloudflare.ape.nzix.net (192.203.154.51) 0.797 ms 0.795 ms 0.791 ms
 4 162.159.242.82 (162.159.242.82) 0.583 ms 0.707 ms 0.760 ms

Not much to complain about there!

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#1231299 4-Feb-2015 18:21

Publius: One thing to bare in mind is that although Cloudflare is peered at the Auckland Peering Exchange (APE), an ISP is still required to contact them directly to establish a bilateral peering session to get any of their CDN content.

In other words, just because an ISP is on APE doesn't guarantee that their traffic will be going to Cloudflare's Auckland pop.

Ahh, that is why my school's N4L connection doesn't appear to be peering with Cloudflare, even though N4L does peer at APE.

I wonder how N4L convinced Spark to peer their connections to APE....

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#1231304 4-Feb-2015 18:27

naggyman:
Publius: One thing to bare in mind is that although Cloudflare is peered at the Auckland Peering Exchange (APE), an ISP is still required to contact them directly to establish a bilateral peering session to get any of their CDN content.

In other words, just because an ISP is on APE doesn't guarantee that their traffic will be going to Cloudflare's Auckland pop.

Ahh, that is why my school's N4L connection doesn't appear to be peering with Cloudflare, even though N4L does peer at APE.

I wonder how N4L convinced Spark to peer their connections to APE....

N4L's network is completely separate to any Spark network as far as i'm aware, so they are free to peer their IP ranges as they choose.
The fact that they did is still quite remarkable. A lot of people doubted it would ever happen, so kudos to N4L.

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