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#1858486 4-Sep-2017 21:03

Theclaytons: That seems short sighted. Vectoring buys time

vectoring costs money as most of the line cards need changed.

its not just turning on a switch

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#1858516 4-Sep-2017 22:02

Theclaytons: That seems short sighted. Vectoring buys time

IMO in UFB areas they should be turning VDSL speeds down, not up to encourage uptake before the copper gets the chop alltogether.

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#1858655 5-Sep-2017 08:54

I am pretty sure Chorus have the right to withdrawal VDSL in any UFB areas. They have yet to do this however.

While it may make people move to UFB they may also just go to Spark Fixed wireless.

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#1858665 5-Sep-2017 09:04

Some people can't get UFB yet (even though it's available in their streets) because of consent issues. Rock, meet hard place.

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#1858667 5-Sep-2017 09:08

And that is mostly fixed as of 2 Oct (about 70% who have been blocked should be able to get passed this issue now)

https://sp.chorus.co.nz/product-update/simplifying-consents-land-access-reforms

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#1858668 5-Sep-2017 09:12

Which is good, but there are still some in a situation not of their own making, unable to get UFB because of neighbours, etc.

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#1858767 5-Sep-2017 10:45

Again that is not choruses problem to keep an old network running just to serve those people.

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#1859238 5-Sep-2017 20:52

Actually it is there problem.

Under the proposed Telecommunications (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment Bill,
Schedule 2A
Copper withdrawal code

The minimum requirements that the code must include are that, before Chorus is permitted to stop supplying a service under section 69AC or 69AD,—
(a)
the end-user in relation to the service must be able to—
(i)
access a fibre fixed line access network; and
(ii)
have a fibre connection installed—
(A)
within a reasonable time frame; and
(B)
whether the connection is standard or non-standard, at no cost to the end-user;

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#1859293 5-Sep-2017 22:35

If the cabinet is down to the last few connections and someone is bring difficult providing consent, they should swap the cabnent out for an old conklin! That should give them the motivation they need lol

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#1859344 6-Sep-2017 07:50

The problem is the difficult people are typically absent landlords that dont give a crap or members of the blue rinse brigade that only have an old telephone service and hate change. Neither would be affected by a conklin. Having no phone at all without the upgrade would sort the second lot out but so long as someone will pay to live in the place, the absent landlords will not care if there is no fixed service available at all as its not a requirement for a rental property to have working fixed broadband.

If they sorted that out with all this rental changes they are wanting to mess with then perhaps they might start to care?

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#1859353 6-Sep-2017 08:13

They can withdrawal VDSL (they could do that today), however this is likely to be a notice period required before they disconnect people, it is unlikely they will do this any time soon a they risk driving people onto say Fixed LTE

They can not withdrawal ADSL 2+.

However, under the same proposed law, copper in UFB areas becomes non regulated so they increase the price on it, they can not do this for rural areas without UFB.

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#1859367 6-Sep-2017 08:35

They can disconnect the cabinets and use the copper from the exchange to put people back onto 3 megabit best it can do ADSL which craps out when it rains and the best effort to fix it takes weeks each time to drive people over to fiber then.

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