abrahamt: very strange, I just had a conversation with two different people at telecom, from new and moves, then the broadband team, who both told me vdsl2 was the same price, and was available as long as it was possible from the address receiving the broadband connection. I was quite clear as to the distinction between vdsl2 and adsl2, and they were clear they were aware there was a difference.

This is distinct from conversations i'd had a month or two back, where i was told it wasn't available from telecom, but that they could check the address to tell me if it could theoretically get vdsl2 from another provider.

anyone have any further thoughts?

Ragnor: Basically the wholesale price ISP's pay to Chorus for use of the line and dsl equipment etc.

Telecom are not offering a residential VDSL2 service yet.

imo for residential VDSL2 talk to Snap, for professional or business VDSL2 talk to Maxnet or Unleash.

Ragnor: Basically the wholesale price ISP's pay to Chorus for use of the line and dsl equipment etc.

Telecom are not offering a residential VDSL2 service yet.

imo for residential VDSL2 talk to Snap, for professional or business VDSL2 talk to Maxnet or Unleash.

abrahamt:

Ragnor: Basically the wholesale price ISP's pay to Chorus for use of the line and dsl equipment etc.

Telecom are not offering a residential VDSL2 service yet.

imo for residential VDSL2 talk to Snap, for professional or business VDSL2 talk to Maxnet or Unleash.

are you referring to the monthly or one off price? 

Is it possible the monthly fee is the same, but the install costs more? or vice versa? or both? Aside from maybe specifying a filter installed, it seems to me the installation would be identical?

unfortunately if the vdsl pricing doesn't start to align with adsl2 - and fibre, it's going to be very under utilised imo.

mercutio:

abrahamt:

Ragnor: Basically the wholesale price ISP's pay to Chorus for use of the line and dsl equipment etc.

Telecom are not offering a residential VDSL2 service yet.

imo for residential VDSL2 talk to Snap, for professional or business VDSL2 talk to Maxnet or Unleash.

are you referring to the monthly or one off price? 

Is it possible the monthly fee is the same, but the install costs more? or vice versa? or both? Aside from maybe specifying a filter installed, it seems to me the installation would be identical?

unfortunately if the vdsl pricing doesn't start to align with adsl2 - and fibre, it's going to be very under utilised imo.

i don't think telecom/chorus want to utilise it that much.  what i'm curious about is if anyone is doing vdsl on local-loop-unbundling, as that may be able to be more affordable.

it's an unregulated premium product, so the commerce commission don't control the price.

vdsl will be available in some areas that ufb currently has no 10 year plan  for, and will be available sooner than a lot of ufb connections.  

it's not price-competitive with dsl.  but neither will fibre be, when you don't want to go naked

techmeister: 
Is anyone  doing VDSL2 on an unbundled loop?

insane:

techmeister: 
Is anyone  doing VDSL2 on an unbundled loop?

Telstraclear does... i think