Can't get VDSL, can't get UFB - any other options for faster broadband?

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#115668 3-Apr-2013 09:40

As per the subject it seems I am screwed, and it doesn't look like there are even plans for these to come to where I live (Mangere Bridge) for the short-medium term. I would really like faster broadband to improve my upload speed, since I can now record broadcast quality video and would like to use that for my YouTube uploads, but can't with my present ADSL2 connection speeds.

Are there actually any other options? Looked into Satellite briefly yesterday, but appears to be available only rurally (and also I couldn't actually find whether Satellite offers better speeds in any case).

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#792113 3-Apr-2013 09:40

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#792119 3-Apr-2013 09:43

Satellite shouldn't technically be limited to rural only, but I'd be curious about speed increases anyway on that format. May be wrong but I wouldn't initially expect it to be overly fast.

What I don't get is why the VDSL plans are so expensive, compared to even the newer fibre based plans. We're in a VDSL capable zone, but the plans are roughly $20 more per month minimum.

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#792124 3-Apr-2013 09:46

Are you in a position to see other properties that do have high speed? Reason for the question is that I was in the same situation but have a near line of sight to the office which is in VDSL range (and soon to be UFB) so set up a couple of 5GHz radios as a link and now have 20 down and 10 up at home.

I know its a bit of a long shot but if I couldnt get a connection to the office I was going to drop a couple of flyers into letter boxes across the hill from me or go door knocking to see if I could strike a shared broadband deal with someone.

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#792168 3-Apr-2013 10:39

Jaxson: Satellite shouldn't technically be limited to rural only, but I'd be curious about speed increases anyway on that format. May be wrong but I wouldn't initially expect it to be overly fast.

What I don't get is why the VDSL plans are so expensive, compared to even the newer fibre based plans. We're in a VDSL capable zone, but the plans are roughly $20 more per month minimum.

Chorus charge the extra $20 its not like you don't get anything for it they guarantee pretty good speed. I pay a $25 premium couldn't go back now.

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#792171 3-Apr-2013 10:48

There are plenty of other places to discuss the merits of VDSL pricing folks, would rather not have the thread bogged down with off-topic irrelevance thanks.

Anyways, have enquired regarding a business connection to see whether that helps any.

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#792237 3-Apr-2013 12:11

the majority of houses have 2 copper lines installed so you could try a second line and use one for dedicated downloading/uploading. However the price may be a killer

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#792253 3-Apr-2013 12:26

Correct me if I'm wrong, but satellite only works for fast downloading. Not for uploading.

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#792283 3-Apr-2013 12:55

Really the only option you have is to look at symmetrical services like HSNS. Wont be quicker but upload will be higher obviously. The price is a killer though.

I would look at just putting another adsl line in and run it through a load balancer.

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#792292 3-Apr-2013 13:01

I remember using a Satellite connection a while back, main issue was around latency, I would imagine the speed would be determined by your wallet?

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#792294 3-Apr-2013 13:05

chevrolux: Really the only option you have is to look at symmetrical services like HSNS. Wont be quicker but upload will be higher obviously. The price is a killer though.

I would look at just putting another adsl line in and run it through a load balancer.

Probably won't help video upload.....

I'd say as stated for a reasonable price your best bet is to put a point to point wireless service. If you are at Mangere bridge, can you see Penrose? If so I may be able to help you as we have a tall office building in penrose.

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#792660 3-Apr-2013 20:40

If you are in an unbundled area I know slingshot supports Annex M should double your upload to around 2mbit as I understand it.