0.78K from VDSL Cab what should I expect?

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sheppy

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#124572 12-Jul-2013 14:31

I'm 0.78K away from the cabinet according to "map my walk" and I've currently got ADSL2 from Telecom. The last speedtest I did suggested I was getting 13.1MB Down and 1MB up.
Can anyone give me an idea of how much faster I can get if I switch to VDSL?
Most of the cable is UG but the 130M down the drive is overhead on the power poles

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#854389 12-Jul-2013 14:31

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#854403 12-Jul-2013 14:49

You are probably outside coverage area which is ~600meters.

If you message me your home line number I can run away speed test to see. I wouldn't expect you would be able to tho.

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#854406 12-Jul-2013 14:54

What kind of wire is on the pole? If it is the older 'twisted' cable or open aerial that will need replacing as they aren't suitable for DSL. Needs to be swapped for 049.

And just because the walk to the cabinet is 780m doesn't mean the cable length is that. Only wya to find would be looking at Chorus plans which aren't publicly available.

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#854409 12-Jul-2013 15:00

Thanks - you should have mail!

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#854444 12-Jul-2013 15:57

Map distance from a cabinet or exchange means very little as you have no idea how the copper is routed to you. With a sync speed like you have you'd be very marginal.

The Chorus coverage map will give you a pretty good indication if you're capable of getting VDSL2, but a prequalification done by an ISP is the only definitive way to know.

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#854469 12-Jul-2013 16:47

If the overhead wire needs replacing - thick double insulated twisted copper - who pays for that on a shared drive? Is it part of the $100 install fee?

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#854470 12-Jul-2013 16:49

Chorus will replace it free of charge under a fault. It is their network and they own that piece of wire right up to the ETP or first jackpoint.

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#854473 12-Jul-2013 16:53

does upgrading to VDSL and it not being that fast count as a fault? I called them and they suggested 20-21megs as a likely speed so with new style overhead wires it would likely be faster?

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#854477 12-Jul-2013 17:11

Well you haven't posted line stats like PeterReader asked ad speedtest results are just not useful at all so we don't really know the state of your connection.
I think the Chorus standard is a down speed of 15Mbps so might be tricky to get a fault logged but at the end of the day having an 049 service lead means you will get the most out of your connection. I remember years ago when VDSL had just started to be rolled out they talked about shielded aerial leads due to AM interference but not sure if anything actually came of that.

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#854490 12-Jul-2013 17:56

Here are the stats - have a Draktek 120 in bridge mode so it took a little messing to get them
> adsl status --------------------------- ATU-R Info (hw: annex A, f/w: annex A) -----------
DSL Modulation : ADSL2+(G.992.5)
State : SHOWTIME
DS Actual Rate : 15881122 bps US Actual Rate : 1240000 bps
DS Attainable Rate : 15660000 bps US Attainable Rate : 310 bps
DS Path Mode : Fast US Path Mode : Fast
DS Interleave Depth : 160 US Interleave Depth : 1
NE Current Attenuation : 12 dB Cur SNR Margin : 12 dB
DS actual PSD : 18. 8 dB US actual PSD : 12. 5 dB
ADSL Firmware Version : 321311_A
-------------------------------- ATU-C Info ---------------------------------
Far Current Attenuation : 4 dB Far SNR Margin : 12 dB
CO ITU Version[0] : 0000494b CO ITU Version[1] : 00004e53
DSLAM CHIPSET VENDOR :