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Wannabe Geek

#133867 6-Nov-2013 05:16
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Hey all, I have been on the VDSL network for two months now, Currently using the TG589vn which is an ok modem Speedtest Results from Telecom. 
latency 51-55ms
Down/upload 32.02/9.7Mbps
good for streaming but I had better performance on ADSL+2 with my Linksys WAG320N which only gave me
Latency 49ms
Down/Up 17.04/0.79Mbps.

I have been searching all over the net for the Best VDSL modem router but I can't determine which one I should go for or if I should get a VDSL modem and bridge it, I'd prefer an all-in-one just so I don't have the messy look. I am not worried about money especially when I am in no hurry to get fiber due to location and when it will be available in my area.

Here's a list of Modems I have been looking at so far.

*DrayTek Vigor DV130
*DrayTek Vigor 2760N
*Fritzbox 7390
*InBox V50-U

Also if you recommend Bridging please suggest a router.

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Uber Geek

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  #927951 6-Nov-2013 05:16
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.



If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that



- you have reset your modem and router



- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing


- you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap



- your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing



- you read this topic and follow the instructions there.



Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:



- Your ISP and plan



- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)



- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)



- Your general location (or street)



- If you are rural or urban



- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin



- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service



- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above



Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.



A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.



I recommend you read these two blog posts:



- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)



- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?

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Master Geek

  #928064 6-Nov-2013 11:30
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I think your latency directly depends on current DLM profile, (not on modem/router)

DLM-1 1ms 0INP

DLM-2 8ms 0INP
DLM-4 8ms 1INP
DLM-6 8ms 2INP

DLM-3 16ms 0INP
DLM-5 16ms 1INP
DLM-7 16ms 2INP
DLM-8 16ms 4INP

First you need to determine on which DLM profile you are. After this make a decision about new modem/router.

Sorry about my English guys :>

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  #928083 6-Nov-2013 12:00
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You really need to define "better performance". It could be that your interleaving is slightly higher on VDSL2 but assuming you didn't change ISP's to get VDSL2 it's not really possible for streaming performance to be worse unless you're doing something different such as using wireless.

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Uber Geek

  #928086 6-Nov-2013 12:08
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are you a pro-gamer?

If not, I doubt you will see any noticeable difference in modem.


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Wannabe Geek

  #928106 6-Nov-2013 12:42
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I'll ring up my ISP about the DLM profile today, what I mean by performance is a good reliable modem router that people are having really good experience with. I am with the same ISP and all results I get are from Ethernet connection on my WAG320 I never had a problem and in game my strength signal was always full green bars but not with the TG589vn it drops from 3 bars on yellow, most of the time the game hosts are in NZ or AUS.
as for the Pro-gamer I'm going to say no but I can defiantly tell when I look at the reply of the game. Thank you for contributing.


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Wannabe Geek

  #928115 6-Nov-2013 12:59
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I am using Fritzbox 7390, quite happy and satisfied

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Uber Geek


  #928123 6-Nov-2013 13:35
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The DLM profile is assigned automatically depending on the noise on your line, and is also affected by interference from other people's vdsl connections - your ISP can't manually change it.

If you have the time, have a read through this thread to see what other people in your situation have done to try and reduce their latency.  I don't think changing the modem will have much effect, but could be worth a try - see if you can borrow one first to see if it makes any difference as the Telecom ones for VDSL are pretty good already.

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Uber Geek

  #928130 6-Nov-2013 13:56
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replacing your router will make next to no appreciable difference to your gaming experience.

The numbers you have there show a 5ms difference between ADSL2 and VDSL. You will not notice 5ms.

DLM profile is one thing that can and does make a difference, my latency reduced when I hit DLM-1 a while ago, took several weeks to get there. You can always ask and see what profile you are on (or do an xdsl info expand=enabled on your router).

Unless your router is heavily loaded (multiple clients, lots of uPNP (e.g. bittorrent)) you will not benefit from replacing it.

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Uber Geek


  #931619 12-Nov-2013 17:05
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wasabi2k: replacing your router will make next to no appreciable difference to your gaming experience.

Technicolor's are generally pretty crappy in my experience....

He may get a better result by keeping the Technicolor as a dumb modem and bridging to a router running Gargoyle or Tomato (so that a decent router is handling NAT, DHCP, DNS, QoS etc).

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