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Topic # 145451 18-May-2014 15:51
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"Why can't he just accept his speeds..."- sbiddle, and others:P

http://www.idpc.com/loop-extenders.htm

What are these? Is it possible to get installed?

Before you ask, I'm on DSL1, 2.3mbps fastest speed I can get, have a master splitter installed,telecom and connected to an exchange.

Line attention downstream-54dB





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  Reply # 1047477 18-May-2014 15:51
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

 



 

- you have reset your modem and router

 


 

- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing

 

- you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap

 


 

- your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing

 


 

- you read this topic and follow the instructions there.

 



 

Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:

 



 

- Your ISP and plan

 


 

- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)

 


 

- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)

 


 

- Your general location (or street)

 


 

- If you are rural or urban

 


 

- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin

 


 

- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service

 


 

- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above

 



 

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

 



 

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

 



 

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

 



 

- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)

 


 

- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?




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  Reply # 1047490 18-May-2014 16:09
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I'm sure the underpants gnomes may be able to assist.



If you have 54db.. there isn't anything you can do but move.. or perhaps pay 250k to get a cabinet installed closer. I suspect moving may be cheaper.

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 1047501 18-May-2014 16:27
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plambrechtsen: I'm sure the underpants gnomes may be able to assist.



If you have 54db.. there isn't anything you can do but move.. or perhaps pay 250k to get a cabinet installed closer. I suspect moving may be cheaper.


*Ahem* 

I've talked to Chorus and it's actually 150K. 

The local school has a fibre connections which according to the government the school can resell to the community.. It's an interesting idea.





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  Reply # 1047508 18-May-2014 16:58
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Wow another thread on xDSL speed topic must be going for a record



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Reply # 1047510 18-May-2014 17:02
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johnr: Wow another thread on xDSL speed topic must be going for a record


Well, I try.

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But seriously. The school agrees, how can they go on about doing this-http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11157911

What could my performance be like with this?





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  Reply # 1047542 18-May-2014 18:24
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Firebreaker:
plambrechtsen: I'm sure the underpants gnomes may be able to assist.



If you have 54db.. there isn't anything you can do but move.. or perhaps pay 250k to get a cabinet installed closer. I suspect moving may be cheaper.


*Ahem* 

I've talked to Chorus and it's actually 150K. 

The local school has a fibre connections which according to the government the school can resell to the community.. It's an interesting idea.


150 grand? Cheap at twice that price! innocent




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  Reply # 1047543 18-May-2014 18:30
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lets try this approach...

be glad with what you have ;)
 





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  Reply # 1047545 18-May-2014 18:38
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hio77: lets try this approach...

be glad with what you have ;)
 



Wut?







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  Reply # 1047546 18-May-2014 18:40
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Asking again here, The government has approved schools reselling the fibre connection. How would I go on about doing this?

I live 1.8KM away from the school. What would my speeds be like?





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  Reply # 1047547 18-May-2014 18:40
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Firebreaker:
hio77: lets try this approach...

be glad with what you have ;)




Wut?


boosters wont ever be used. short of looking at an upgrade, or one of the community projects, your options appear to be very limited.

enjoy the fact that your connection isnt that bad :)




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  Reply # 1047548 18-May-2014 18:41
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Firebreaker: Asking again here, The government has approved schools reselling the fibre connection. How would I go on about doing this?

I live 1.8KM away from the school. What would my speeds be like?


the reselling of school fiber, is generally via a wireless link as far as i have seen.

do you have Line of Sight?




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  Reply # 1047551 18-May-2014 18:53
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Firebreaker: Asking again here, The government has approved schools reselling the fibre connection. How would I go on about doing this?

I live 1.8KM away from the school. What would my speeds be like?


The government has NOT approved schools selling their fibre connection.

The government has approved schools letting a 3rd party ISP use a fibre core to the school to run an commercial service over. Such a scenario for example would involve an ISP installing a 100Mbps HSNS connection to the school, install commercial wireless gear on the school and installing wireless gear to connect back to the AP on the school.

All schools have the documentation surrounding this which was released a few weeks ago. The economics are interesting, you could potentially offer decent plans to people for ~$150 per month with a $300ish or so installation cost assuming you could get probably a minimum of say 15 people to connect to such a service.

If you have no LOS coverage to the school then such a scenario simply isn't possible.

If you want better speeds move to RBI wireless or to another wireless provider. As discussed in the numerous threads you've already started your copper will not get better.







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  Reply # 1047552 18-May-2014 18:54
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hio77:
Firebreaker: Asking again here, The government has approved schools reselling the fibre connection. How would I go on about doing this?

I live 1.8KM away from the school. What would my speeds be like?


the reselling of school fiber, is generally via a wireless link as far as i have seen.

do you have Line of Sight?


I can't see the school,no.







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  Reply # 1047553 18-May-2014 18:56
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Firebreaker: Asking again here, The government has approved schools reselling the fibre connection. How would I go on about doing this?

I live 1.8KM away from the school. What would my speeds be like?


The government has NOT approved schools selling their fibre connection.

The government has approved schools letting a 3rd party ISP use a fibre core to the school to run an commercial service over. Such a scenario for example would involve an ISP installing a 100Mbps HSNS connection to the school, install commercial wireless gear on the school and installing wireless gear to connect back to the AP on the school.

All schools have the documentation surrounding this. The economics are interesting, you could potentially offer decent plans to people for ~$150 per month with a $300ish or so installation cost assuming you could get probably a minimum of say 15 people to connect to such a service.

If you have no LOS coverage to the school then such a scenario simply isn't possible.




Sorry my bad. It is an ISP. What speed will expect if I can connect? 100 down and 50 up max or will I see lower due to it being wireless? You mention 150 dollars a month, what would be the data cap with that? Unlimited?





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  Reply # 1047555 18-May-2014 18:58
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You could expect to get a 30Mbps symmetrical offering. Unlimited? Yeah right. The economics simply don't stack up. Wireless is a finite resource unless you're talking about wanting an unlimited 5Mbps connection.

In all seriousness you need to get with the reality a little bit - if you want an unlimited 100/50 connection you need to move to a city.





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