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Topic # 150115 11-Jul-2014 15:10
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Just had the chorus guys in doing an install this week and the fibre patch cable is just hanging loose - I was going to tidy this up with some standard capping but I'm just concerned that a right angled bend might not be the best for the fibre - ideas?


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  Reply # 1087243 11-Jul-2014 15:16
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Get some flexi-conduit?



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  Reply # 1087245 11-Jul-2014 15:19
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wellygary: Get some flexi-conduit?


Now that it's plugged in an the fibre is active I really don't want to be unplugging it to get the fibre through otherwise that would have been easy

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  Reply # 1087296 11-Jul-2014 16:01
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nitrotech:
wellygary: Get some flexi-conduit?


Now that it's plugged in an the fibre is active I really don't want to be unplugging it to get the fibre through otherwise that would have been easy


You may as well power it down first ! 
Shouldnt it auto recover just as any other broadband connection?


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  Reply # 1087299 11-Jul-2014 16:12
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nitrotech:
wellygary: Get some flexi-conduit?


Now that it's plugged in an the fibre is active I really don't want to be unplugging it to get the fibre through otherwise that would have been easy


Slit the back of the flexi and slip it over the fibre, then affix it into place with some conduit holders with the cut turned toward the wall, you could even tape it closed if you really wanted to

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  Reply # 1087301 11-Jul-2014 16:16
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Do you mean the yellow cable? That looks like a standard ethernet cable to me, bend it as much as you want. The fiber's in the conduit coming down from top right isn't it?




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  Reply # 1087313 11-Jul-2014 16:34
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timmmay: Do you mean the yellow cable? That looks like a standard ethernet cable to me, bend it as much as you want. The fiber's in the conduit coming down from top right isn't it?

I agree.  If the connectors on this yellow cable are the same as the ones going into the black box, then it is a standard computer ethernet (network) cable and  you can pretty much bend it as much as you like.  You can also replace it with a longer (50m+) or shorter cable available from any computer store.




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timmmay: Do you mean the yellow cable? That looks like a standard ethernet cable to me, bend it as much as you want. The fiber's in the conduit coming down from top right isn't it?


That yellow cable you talk of is the fibre cable coming in from the demark box to the ONT.

DON'T BEND IT.

Unplugging it can get dirt on the end which can cause a crappy connection.

Realistically, the whole lot should have been put in a cabinet!




 

 

 


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  Reply # 1087338 11-Jul-2014 17:08
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timmmay: Do you mean the yellow cable? That looks like a standard ethernet cable to me, bend it as much as you want. The fiber's in the conduit coming down from top right isn't it?


- Nope Its a Fibre Patch cord  - spliced one end and pluged into the ONT ( it has been run through the back of the mounting tray at the back of the ONT)

nitrotech: >

- In my opinion it actualy shouldnt be there but thats another story - but its actualy an issue for Chorus not for you as its on their side of the network

- Dont unplug it, as its been inspected for contamination before being connecting and like all Fibre Plug connections is subject to contamination damage if you unplug it , move it around or touch things with it and then plug it back in (even for a few seconds)

- Where was this install ? If you are willing PM me the details and ill pass it on to the QA people if appropriate for follow up


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InstallerUFB: Dont unplug it, as its been inspected for contamination before being connecting and like all Fibre Plug connections is subject to contamination damage if you unplug it , move it around or touch things with it and then plug it back in (even for a few seconds)


Are these difficult to unplug? IMO, they would need to be if they're that susceptible to dust and other contamination.




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  Reply # 1087388 11-Jul-2014 18:15
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cjmchch:
timmmay: Do you mean the yellow cable? That looks like a standard ethernet cable to me, bend it as much as you want. The fiber's in the conduit coming down from top right isn't it?


That yellow cable you talk of is the fibre cable coming in from the demark box to the ONT.

DON'T BEND IT.

Unplugging it can get dirt on the end which can cause a crappy connection.

Realistically, the whole lot should have been put in a cabinet!


Yes but what you can't see is the cabinet underneath this and there's already fibre from another company in there - but you're right I do need another rack

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  Reply # 1087429 11-Jul-2014 19:21
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And the 'Sky standard' installers are out in force!! I expect to see much much more of this.

I don't know why they bothered putting that ETP there. They should have just taken the fibre directly to the ONT and spliced in the back of that.

Numpty's is the best way to describe these people.

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  Reply # 1087568 11-Jul-2014 23:17
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They sound like the opposite of the ones who installed fibre at my place. The installers did a neat job (no complaints there). But they insisted on installing a surface mount RJ45 socket next to the ONT. Which they wired back to the ETP. And they placed a label on it saying "Voice to ETP" I told them don't bother installing it as the phone wiring in the house is all in pieces and hasn't been used for years. Had been using VOIP over ADSL since Orcon released their Genius modem / routers. Their reason for insisting on it - In case your house gets selected for auditing.

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  Reply # 1087623 12-Jul-2014 09:29
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Interesting. Wouldn't have been any use in my case as the ETP is purely the fibre termination point.

Have you got copper to yours as well?

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  Reply # 1087876 12-Jul-2014 21:19
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Yes my house still has the original copper line in place. Fibre was installed the same PVC ducting that was used for the copper line. The original piece of CAT5 cable that goes from the ETP to the router location is still there. So the line they installed just duplicates the piece of CAT5. ETP was installed where the demark point used to be. And router, ONT ect is located in cupboard that backs onto ETP. So only about 3m of hybrid fibre / copper cable and my old CAT5. And both of them are joined together inside the ETP, So I have the equivalent of 2 jackpoints that are right next to each over, connected to the same line from the street cabinet, yet are on different cables.

Am tempted to remove the RJ45 socket so I can use it for other things, but don't want to get the fibre installers into trouble if my house gets selected for auditing.

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  Reply # 1088909 14-Jul-2014 21:40
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chevrolux: And the 'Sky standard' installers are out in force!! I expect to see much much more of this.

I don't know why they bothered putting that ETP there. They should have just taken the fibre directly to the ONT and spliced in the back of that.

Numpty's is the best way to describe these people.


Perhaps that's because its not an ETP (E = External).

It's a BUDI - fibre break out/distribution box where multiple connections can be provisioned from.






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