xDSL cabinet change request possible?

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n0de

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Topic # 151710 2-Sep-2014 18:19

Hi,

I'm currently paying for ADSL2, and as you can see from below my speeds are not that hot :(

DSL Status:

Connected

DSL Modulation Mode:

ADSL2+

DSL Path Mode:

Fast

Downstream Rate:

9281 kbps

Upstream Rate:

708 kbps

Downstream Margin:

12 db

Upstream Margin:

12 db

Downstream Line Attenuation:

21 db

Upstream Line Attenuation:

5 db

Downstream Transmit Power:

12 db

Upstream Transmit Power:

21 db

I have requested to have my interleaving re-enabled as this puts my speed back up to 10,000(ish)Kb, the rest of the stats will remain the same...

I called Snap! to check to see what cabinet I was connected to as there a 'new' (or much more modern looking) cabinet that's about 500m from my house - they confirmed that I was connected to a cabinet that was over double the distance away :(

My line fails copper tests (when asking for vDSL etc) - always passes the '24hour line test' *cough* (or - the please call back much later test)

So what I was wondering is.... are there any options for me to request a shift to the closer cabinet - or am I stuck with the direction that the copper leaves the property? (see attached pictures on how chorus 'ran' the cable)

I've had no end of trouble with my line and cannot get anyone to really provide any insight or take ownership of the problem, so I've come here seeking advice :)

oh...just incase anyone was wondering - the hardware internally is rock solid, cable from outside goes through wall and instantly into a good microfilter then split into my modem (I've tried many modems with the same results)

...any ideas would be appreciated!

Cheers!

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Reply # 1120681 2-Sep-2014 18:19

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Reply # 1120693 2-Sep-2014 18:26

just because there is a closer cabinet doesnt mean your going to go to that cabinet..

sometimes the cabinet just branches out in one direction, in this case (i suspect), being away from you instead of in a circle radiating from it.

unlikely that your connected to the "wrong" cabinet, and even less likely to get changed over to the other cabinet.

have you got a master filter installed? that might help squeeze it right out of your line.

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Reply # 1120699 2-Sep-2014 18:29

Chorus wont change tracings.

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Reply # 1120709 2-Sep-2014 18:33

Is there any way to pay chorus to swap out the copper leaving the property? - the vDSL map shows me smack bang in the middle of 2 vDSL ready zones, going by the copper VS the map - it'd appear that I'm the only one using the crappy copper in the no-mans-land on the map.

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Reply # 1120718 2-Sep-2014 18:34

n0de: Is there any way to pay chorus to swap out the copper leaving the property? - the vDSL map shows me smack bang in the middle of 2 vDSL ready zones, going by the copper VS the map - it'd appear that I'm the only one using the crappy copper in the no-mans-land on the map.

shapemaps are an estimate rather than accurate...

looking at your stats, your just a bit outside of vdsl, and likely borderline of being on a different cabinet - which from what your saying seems to be the case.

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Reply # 1120719 2-Sep-2014 18:35

n0de: Is there any way to pay chorus to swap out the copper leaving the property? - the vDSL map shows me smack bang in the middle of 2 vDSL ready zones, going by the copper VS the map - it'd appear that I'm the only one using the crappy copper in the no-mans-land on the map.

They didnt want to do it to me.
But i still get 70Mb/s.

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Reply # 1120720 2-Sep-2014 18:36

...worth paying to have a master filter installed you reckon?

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Reply # 1120722 2-Sep-2014 18:37

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n0de: ...worth paying to have a master filter installed you reckon?

Yup

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Reply # 1120723 2-Sep-2014 18:40

last question :) - short of opening up the box, is there anyway to check to see if I already have one?

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Reply # 1120724 2-Sep-2014 18:41

n0de: ...worth paying to have a master filter installed you reckon?

master filters are always worth it.

if not just to cut the number of variables affecting you out..

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Reply # 1120726 2-Sep-2014 18:42

n0de: last question :) - short of opening up the box, is there anyway to check to see if I already have one?

does your modem work in multiple jackpoints?

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Reply # 1120728 2-Sep-2014 18:43

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You can't change cabinets.

Looking at your speed however it's very low for 21dB. I'd be addressing your internal wiring first and making sure that's up to scratch. I'd put a dollar on it that it's a very likely cause of a significant speed drop.

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Reply # 1120729 2-Sep-2014 18:48

only got one jackpoint in the house, basically sits on the other side of the wall from the chorus demarcation - I'm not sure if i even fit into the category of having 'internal cabling' per-se

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Reply # 1120733 2-Sep-2014 18:52

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After a master filter, you could try getting a "second" line put in and see if you get a connection to the closer cabinet, as they (presumably) only add cabinets when the current link runs out of pairs?

then if the second line is better, drop the first and Presto, forced the swap :D

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Reply # 1120738 2-Sep-2014 18:56

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PhantomNVD: After a master filter, you could try getting a "second" line put in and see if you get a connection to the closer cabinet, as they (presumably) only add cabinets when the current link runs out of pairs?

then if the second line is better, drop the first and Presto, forced the swap :D

Which is exactly how it doesn't work.

The piller/pedistal outside the house and the MPF aren't magically going to move to another cabinet.

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