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#152130 17-Sep-2014 08:40
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Hi there,

Is there any information on when ISPs will be offering the new wholesale UFB plans announced by Chorus a few months back?

I'm particularly interested in "Fibre 100 (which) will be priced at the initial wholesale price of $40 per 100/20 connection, making it the de facto entry level fibre plan." (source: http://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/chorus-re-engages-isps-offering-1000-customers-double-speed-ufb-fibre)

I mentioned this to a CSR at my ISP (Snap) last week, but they'd never heard of this. I'm wondering when this will be introduced, and whether ISPs will elect to provide this to existing customers (or just a subset, eg those out of contract). Given the significant increase in speed over the currently entry-level 30/10 plan, I'd be very interested in this, even if it does come with a slightly higher cost (will be $2.50 more at the wholesale level).

Thanks for any advice.

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  #1130419 17-Sep-2014 08:40
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  #1130465 17-Sep-2014 09:48
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a couple of ISPs have launched the 100/20 plan - VF and Slingshot I believe - as either replacement for the regulated 100/50 plan or 'free upgrade' for the regulated 30/10

Haven't heard about any of the others. 

The other plans they launched which I haven't seen yet are:

100/50
100/100

200/20
200/100
200/200


 
 
 
 


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  #1130478 17-Sep-2014 10:11
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I'd love to see what happens when they launch any 200 down plan, as most ISP's will need to issue a new router that is capable of gigabit Ethernet



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  #1130485 17-Sep-2014 10:18
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NonprayingMantis: a couple of ISPs have launched the 100/20 plan - VF and Slingshot I believe - as either replacement for the regulated 100/50 plan or 'free upgrade' for the regulated 30/10

Haven't heard about any of the others. 

The other plans they launched which I haven't seen yet are:

100/50
100/100

200/20
200/100
200/200



Vodafone will be offering 200/20 as well as 100/20

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  #1130554 17-Sep-2014 11:48
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macuser: I'd love to see what happens when they launch any 200 down plan, as most ISP's will need to issue a new router that is capable of gigabit Ethernet




Which ISPs don't issue routers with gigabit ethernet? I know snap routers have gigabit ethernet.




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  #1130557 17-Sep-2014 11:50
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NonprayingMantis: a couple of ISPs have launched the 100/20 plan - VF and Slingshot I believe - as either replacement for the regulated 100/50 plan or 'free upgrade' for the regulated 30/10

Haven't heard about any of the others. 

The other plans they launched which I haven't seen yet are:

100/50
100/100

200/20
200/100
200/200



That's good to hear some are on to it, at least with the 100/20 plan.

Can a Snap rep confirm your company's plans in this area?

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  #1130560 17-Sep-2014 11:52
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charsleysa:
macuser: I'd love to see what happens when they launch any 200 down plan, as most ISP's will need to issue a new router that is capable of gigabit Ethernet




Which ISPs don't issue routers with gigabit ethernet? I know snap routers have gigabit ethernet.


I believe Spark routers currently only have 100Mb LAN ports  (they have a 1Gb WAN port though - so you'll get your speed to the router, just not to any one device)



 
 
 
 


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  #1130589 17-Sep-2014 12:17
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The Slingshot router only has a 100Mbit WAN port. Rather disappointing really. I currently get about 90/40 on my UFB.

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  #1130595 17-Sep-2014 12:23
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To answer the question in a simple form - the plans are all available now (and have been since July) for any ISP who wants to deploy them. A number of providers are already doing this.

Whether an ISP choses to deploy any (or all of these), or timeframes for product testing are entirely different questions.



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  #1130620 17-Sep-2014 12:55
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jonathan18:


That's good to hear some are on to it, at least with the 100/20 plan.

Can a Snap rep confirm your company's plans in this area?


Ralph from snap said

"Our new fibre plans are shaping up very nicely - I can't say too much more than that but the product team assure me that they're not far away from launching. "

in the new everything coming soon thread.

 

 



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  #1130646 17-Sep-2014 13:13
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dolsen:
jonathan18:


That's good to hear some are on to it, at least with the 100/20 plan.

Can a Snap rep confirm your company's plans in this area?


Ralph from snap said

"Our new fibre plans are shaping up very nicely - I can't say too much more than that but the product team assure me that they're not far away from launching. "

in the new everything coming soon thread.  


Thanks - I had seen that thread but not Snap's response; will track that thread to await a response as to Snap's plans.

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macuser: I'd love to see what happens when they launch any 200 down plan, as most ISP's will need to issue a new router that is capable of gigabit Ethernet




Don't most ISPs offer gigabit ethernet on their UFB routers?

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Voda, Snap, Orcon all use le Gigabit routers as far as I know.




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