Moving from East Auckland (VDSL) to rural Hamilton

Forums › New Zealand Broadband › Moving from East Auckland (VDSL) to rural Hamilton

Youman534

5 posts

Wannabe Geek

#162098 29-Jan-2015 00:06

Hey people

I'm looking at moving from East Auckland with internet speeds of 35/10 on VDSL to Pirongia. (near Te Awamutu) I've been reading on these forums that the speeds out there are only about 1-3mbps download outside of peak hours and that the speeds can drop to 0.5mbps at peak hours. This is quite concerning as fast Internet speeds is something my family relies on. (1.2TB a month)

I've read about a few solutions such as RBI wireless. I have done some research but good information seems to be quite scattered so I thought I'd just ask here, hope you guys don't mind sharing some knowledge :)

What else is out there apart from RBI?
What kind of speeds should I expect from these alternate internet services?
What kind of cost is it to install this kinda thing and how much typically is it monthly?
Is it possible to get 2 internet lines running to the same address?
How is the internet in Te Awamutu? The Chorus network upgrade map seems to say some areas could get as high as 20mbps down?

Any knowledge and information you guys can help me with would be great!

PeterReader

6028 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 461

Trusted

Geekzone

Lifetime subscriber

#1224449 29-Jan-2015 00:06

Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

- you have reset your modem and router

- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing

- you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap

- your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing

- you read this topic and follow the instructions there.

Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:

- Your ISP and plan

- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)

- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)

- Your general location (or street)

- If you are rural or urban

- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin

- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service

- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)

- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?

I am the Geekzone Robot and I am here to help. I am from the Internet. I do not interact. Do not expect other replies from me.

Referral links: Quic Broadband (free setup code: R587125ERQ6VE) | Samsung | AliExpress | Wise | Sharesies

Support Geekzone by subscribing (browse ads-free), or making a one-off or recurring donation through PressPatron.

Stan

929 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 183
Inactive user

#1224464 29-Jan-2015 00:21

I would try lightwire if they have coverage in your area they have there own wireless towers in the waikato and seem to provide decent speeds and data allowances.

http://www.lightwire.co.nz/tools/rural-coverage-map/

Stan

929 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 183
Inactive user

#1224465 29-Jan-2015 00:24

Also what does this map say about the coverage in the area

https://www.chorus.co.nz/network-upgrade-map

Youman534

5 posts

Wannabe Geek

#1224470 29-Jan-2015 00:25

Cheers, i'll take a look at them

Youman534

5 posts

Wannabe Geek

#1224473 29-Jan-2015 00:28

Broadband > 5 Mbps
In the area that I would be moving to in the Pirongia township, but I've read horror stories from November 2014 of extremely slow internet

Stan

929 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 183
Inactive user

#1224482 29-Jan-2015 00:58

Youman534: Broadband > 5 Mbps
In the area that I would be moving to in the Pirongia township, but I've read horror stories from November 2014 of extremely slow internet

Fair enough

I have been told that lightwire wireless is generally sits between 8-15mbit and their uses are normally happy with the performance.

There coverage map seems to be broken on the website so might pay to give them a call because I know they service around that area.

Unfortunately you might need to curb the downloading habits unless you get a cheap unlimited plan on the fixed line and download off peak times while using the wireless plan for more priority based web use.

Otherwise I someone might be able to shed light on when/if the cabinet is being upgraded.

HP

Shop now for HP laptops and other devices (affiliate link).

Youman534

5 posts

Wannabe Geek

#1224484 29-Jan-2015 01:12

Really good answer man, yeah I think that would be a good option

Jase2985

13730 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6202

ID Verified

Lifetime subscriber

#1224493 29-Jan-2015 05:36

if you go to a RBI service you are probably still going to have to change your internet habits as 1. they don't generally offer unlimited plans, and 2. the data is expensive

its one of those situations that you cant have have best of both worlds, rural lifestyle with urban broadband. NZ is just not setup for that yet and in some cases it never will be

wellygary

8810 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5287

#1224543 29-Jan-2015 09:26

Jase2985: if you go to a RBI service you are probably still going to have to change your internet habits as 1. they don't generally offer unlimited plans, and 2. the data is expensive

Yip , while you might be able to find an acceptable wireless speed solution, you are not going to be pulling 1+TB a month over a WISP (Unless you are handing over first born children each month),

Lightwire will give you 200GB for a hundy a month overage is a buck a GB

Youman534

5 posts

Wannabe Geek

#1224669 29-Jan-2015 13:03

That's a real shame then.

What about having 2-3 internet lines on the same property? Is that possible?

coffeebaron

6304 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3567

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#1224686 29-Jan-2015 13:32

Youman534: That's a real shame then.

What about having 2-3 internet lines on the same property? Is that possible?

Won't make a difference if there is not enough backhaul at the exchange. It would be just like attaching a fireman hose to the end of your garden hose.

If you do go RBI checkout http://www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz
We can do 200GB + an extra off-peak 200GB for $199 per month. Or we may be able to customise something for you if you need more.

Rural IT and Broadband support.

Broadband troubleshooting and master filter installs.
Starlink installer - one month free: https://www.starlink.com/?referral=RC-32845-88860-71
Wi-Fi and networking
Cel-Fi supply and installer - boost your mobile phone coverage legally

Need help in Auckland, Waikato or BoP? Click my email button, or email me direct: [my user name] at geekzonemail dot com