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# 175569 4-Jul-2015 09:01
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Hi hope this is the right forum for this post. I wasn't sure if I should put it here or Home Workshop.
Is it easy to move VDSL jack point inside the house? Mine is at the far end of the house in study but now I have put a TV and Minix in the lounge which is the other end of the house so wireless signal is not reaching very well. Tried dual band AC router too. There is a telephone jack point in the kitchen which is almost centre of the house but I am not sure how to move it there or if this is the right solution. Any ideas? Thanks

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  # 1336800 4-Jul-2015 09:19
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Do you have a VDSL master filter installed, with a dedicated Cat 6 or hybrid cable running to the existing VDSL jack?

If not, this would be a good time to get it installed in the location of your choice (within reason).




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  # 1336809 4-Jul-2015 09:43
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Probably just as easy to run an ethernet link and stick an access point by the TV.

The answer to 'Is moving the vdsl jack easy?' is yes, if you know what you are doing haha. If you don't know what you're doing you would probably end up just running a new cable anyway so you might as well just do that and terminate it as an ethernet link rather than a DSL jack.

 
 
 
 




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  # 1336823 4-Jul-2015 10:19
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Sideface: Do you have a VDSL master filter installed, with a dedicated Cat 6 or hybrid cable running to the existing VDSL jack?

If not, this would be a good time to get it installed in the location of your choice (within reason).

I think a master filter was installed outside the house in the box I believe but definitely no Cat6 cable was run. Not sure which one is hybrid but no new cable was fun. How do I know for sure if a master filter was installed or not? I'm planning to go fiber by the end of this year when it's available so don't want to spend on anything that will not be useful for fiber.

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  # 1336826 4-Jul-2015 10:22
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check to see where the master splitter is if its at the etp you can reconfig. wiring to make kitchen jack the vdsl, depending on cabling vdsl should have cat5e min.,

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  # 1336829 4-Jul-2015 10:24
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sorry didnt see your last post.

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  # 1336831 4-Jul-2015 10:24
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quebec:
Sideface: Do you have a VDSL master filter installed, with a dedicated Cat 6 or hybrid cable running to the existing VDSL jack?

If not, this would be a good time to get it installed in the location of your choice (within reason).

I think a master filter was installed outside the house in the box I believe but definitely no Cat6 cable was run. Not sure which one is hybrid but no new cable was fun. How do I know for sure if a master filter was installed or not? I'm planning to go fiber by the end of this year when it's available so don't want to spend on anything that will not be useful for fiber.


Data cabling your house would be useful for fibre obviously. Start now and have it all completed before fibre is even scoped.




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  # 1336833 4-Jul-2015 10:26
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As an alternative, you might be able to run an ethernet cable (cat 5e or cat 6) between your current router location and a good central location. That would allow you to install a separate wireless access point onto your network.

How easy that would be really depends on the house. If you are in an older house with a basement or crawl space underneath for example, then it should be relatively easy. At the other end of the spectrum, if you are in a modern house with a slab, multi story and a skillion roof, then it might be very difficult and costly.

If it is too difficult to run a cable, then an alternative might be a pair of powerline adapters, which effectively turn your power cabling into your house into network cables. That would then allow you to put a separate wireless access point next to a power point somewhere else in the house. They are not as fast or reliable as a dedicated cable however.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1336840 4-Jul-2015 10:31
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youll have to open the white box to check this will also show what cabling has been run and how open the kitchen jack as well



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  # 1336848 4-Jul-2015 10:38
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chevrolux: Probably just as easy to run an ethernet link and stick an access point by the TV.

The answer to 'Is moving the vdsl jack easy?' is yes, if you know what you are doing haha. If you don't know what you're doing you would probably end up just running a new cable anyway so you might as well just do that and terminate it as an ethernet link rather than a DSL jack.

Running a new cable through the roof? Sorry I know i can do this but never find it before and don't wanna bring down the house!

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  # 1336858 4-Jul-2015 10:59
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you dont sound very confident or compitent (please dont take it as an insult). So you would end up paying someone to do it

If you are in Auckland or Waikato PM coffeebarron and he can sort something out for you.



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  # 1336876 4-Jul-2015 11:42
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Sorry I meant- I have been in the attic to sort antenna cable but never tried to run a new cable to an existing point in the wall. Is it just a matter of goin in the attic and find the point where cable goes down to the white box and then put the cable down and open the White box. And pull it out? Sorry I know i can do this but never find it before and don't wanna bring down the house!



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  # 1336880 4-Jul-2015 11:51
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BTW it's a single level house with easy access to attic.

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  # 1336888 4-Jul-2015 12:18
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If you have existing runs of phone or aerial cable from the attic down to jack points on the wall, then you might be able to use that cable to pull a new ethernet cable through. For instance, you might be able to use the phone cable supplying the VDSL at one end, and an aerial cable behind your TV at the other. The risk is that the two cable could separate while you are pulling them, if the existing holes through the framing aren't big enough for two cables.

Otherwise, you would need to somehow drill holes from the attic down through the top plate and nogs in the wall. That is something I have not been brave enough to attempt myself.  

Once you have the cable between the two points, then you can put on a double faceplate and connect the cables up with the appropriate tools.

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  # 1337299 5-Jul-2015 13:47
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I have an 'A' frame roof.  What I did was have all services installed into the roof.  Then I ran the services from the roof down through the walls into whatever rooms I wanted.   Putting the "primary" point of the services into the roof makes things much easier.




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  # 1337390 5-Jul-2015 17:34
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quebec: Sorry I meant- I have been in the attic to sort antenna cable but never tried to run a new cable to an existing point in the wall. Is it just a matter of goin in the attic and find the point where cable goes down to the white box and then put the cable down and open the White box. And pull it out? Sorry I know i can do this but never find it before and don't wanna bring down the house!


Yea that's pretty much it. If there is an antenna cable already by the TV you could use this to draw down the new ethernet cable. Just open it up down below on the wall, tie on a draw cable, pull up in to the ceiling, tie on new ethernet + existing cable, then go back down to the TV and pull them both down together. Liquid soap works really well as cable lube if the hole is a bit tight.

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