Broadband upgrade schedules/plans (or lack of?)

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#180734 19-Sep-2015 16:44

Hey guys, I've been on a pretty average adsl connection here since I moved in about 6 years ago - 4-5Mbps down speedtest to Auckand. I'm on Pyes Pa Rd in Tauranga which I guess you could call semi rural if you were generous.

Everywhere I've looked has nothing at all further planned for the area in regards to either ufb or vdsl. The frustrating thing is that my neighbour according to the chorus and national broadband maps can get vdsl but I am too far away and after phone calls to 2degrees which are my current provider all they can tell me is that it depends on how far away I am from the cabinet for vdsl and they only way they can check is if I place an order for the vdsl service and hope I'm within range when it comes time to be hooked up. What seems odd to me though is that I'm closer to town than that neighbour is and that vdsl area on the map seems to start from their address and carry on further down the road for about 1km away from town then it's back to adsl again.

There have been for the last couple of days a bunch on Connect trucks and ditch witches laying what looks to be inch or inch and a half diameter green conduit along the road outside my property back towards the city but for the life of me I can't find any information about them at all - can't even find a website or phone number. Unless they're a contractor to UFF or something like that it's like they don't exist. Probably too much to hope for fibre being installed but just curious if anyone has heard of them?

Is there any way of finding out if there is a timeframe for planned rollouts if these guys aren't running fibre or are the chorus maps pretty much it?

National broadband map vdsl image :( North is to town about 3km away.

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#1390332 19-Sep-2015 16:44

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#1390345 19-Sep-2015 16:55

If that's your house you fall into a 5Mbps zone connected to the TRG/AN cabinet.

Assuming your neighbour is in the yellow area they're connected to the TRG/N ISAM cabinet that supports VDSL2 and ADSL2+

Distance from town is meaningless - there are hundreds of cabinets and exchanges that cover the Tauranga area. You're simply too far from the cabinet that serves you, and your neighbour is probably connected to a cabinet going the other way.

Senza

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#1390347 19-Sep-2015 16:58

Yeah it is unfortunately. Was just presuming the cabinets closer to town would have been upgraded progressively rather than leaving a deadzone with one old cabinet surrounded by newer ones.

The fence line between myself and the neighbour is literally the edge of the yellow vdsl area. That doesn't sound promising, if that's the case then I guess I'll just have to carry on with it and such is life.

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#1390356 19-Sep-2015 17:15

get RBI wireless if you are worried about speed

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#1390375 19-Sep-2015 17:48

Try applying for VDSL and see, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. Otherwise, RBI is your (best) option.

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#1390377 19-Sep-2015 17:52

quickymart: Try applying for VDSL and see, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. Otherwise, RBI is your (best) option.

hes in a 5mbps zone, they will just laugh at him

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#1390380 19-Sep-2015 17:58

quickymart: Try applying for VDSL and see, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. Otherwise, RBI is your (best) option.

The OP can't get VDSL2 because they're about right on the edge of the copper MPF about 4km from the cabinet. Assuming their neighbour is in the yellow they're on a different MPF connected to a cabinet that's somewhere in the vicinity of 100m or so away from them.

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#1390463 19-Sep-2015 21:53

My bad :( disregard. In that case, RBI is probably the best option then.

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#1390516 20-Sep-2015 08:00

I have an interest in this also.

Senza, this conduit starts at about 949 Pyes Pa Road, in the locality of the primary school and opposite a new subdivision where we are about to build our new house. I presume that this conduit is to run a data cable of some description to service this subdivision (presently 6 lots, but eventually about 12 lots from memory). I initially thought that they would be connecting to the TRG/N cabinet opposite Merricks Rd, but they seem to be continuing down the road, perhaps to the cabinet by the crematorium - TRG/AN

Perhaps sbiddle or some of the others 'in the know' might be able to answer my questions:

Am I right in assuming that this is for the benefit of our subdivision? If so, what can we expect in the way of broadband connections?

Fibre has been run all the way up Pyes Pa to the primary School, and across to Oropi Primary School. It is possible to connect to this, in my case the cost is circa $8k, so I am presently weighing up my other options.

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#1390517 20-Sep-2015 08:08

Chorus no longer deploy copper in new subdivisions (and haven't for quite a few years now).

Without knowing anything else about the area the logical expectation would be that this would be a Chorus fibre only subdivision.

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#1390523 20-Sep-2015 08:43

sbiddle: Chorus no longer deploy copper in new subdivisions (and haven't for quite a few years now).

Without knowing anything else about the area the logical expectation would be that this would be a Chorus fibre only subdivision.

Sorry, should have explained. This subdivision has been a long time in the making. Power and copper data were reticulated 'internally' around the ROW's some years ago. It is only within the last few months that the sections have sold with the first builds only starting now. I am guessing that the conduit is to connect the 'internal copper' to the network.

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#1392963 23-Sep-2015 18:48

traderstu: I have an interest in this also.

Senza, this conduit starts at about 949 Pyes Pa Road, in the locality of the primary school and opposite a new subdivision where we are about to build our new house. I presume that this conduit is to run a data cable of some description to service this subdivision (presently 6 lots, but eventually about 12 lots from memory). I initially thought that they would be connecting to the TRG/N cabinet opposite Merricks Rd, but they seem to be continuing down the road, perhaps to the cabinet by the crematorium - TRG/AN

Perhaps sbiddle or some of the others 'in the know' might be able to answer my questions:

Am I right in assuming that this is for the benefit of our subdivision? If so, what can we expect in the way of broadband connections?

Fibre has been run all the way up Pyes Pa to the primary School, and across to Oropi Primary School. It is possible to connect to this, in my case the cost is circa $8k, so I am presently weighing up my other options.

Just had a chat with one of them on my way home from work. I believe they're Downer Connect who I think contract to Chorus? The guy I talked to said it is fibre that they're running through the conduit - didn't say much timeframe wise but told me it will be available shortly. Presumably once they hook back in to either the lakes subdivision or wherever the current fibre ends closer to town along Pyes Pa Rd.

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#1394091 25-Sep-2015 08:19

I have it on fairly good authority that this is some sort of a feeder going from Tauranga to Rotorua. Mystery solved (I think).

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#1401642 7-Oct-2015 11:21

Go to https://www.chorus.co.nz/rural-broadband-initiative/rural-fibre/fibre-to-rural-communities-1

Enter your address in the address bar on the Rural Fibre map. If the blue line on the map runs past your property you can access the RBI rural fibre which was laid down Pyes Pa Rd to get to the school.

The connection charge could be substantial as it is likely that a fibre terminal will need to be built for your single connection. Also if you are on the opposite side of the road from the fibre, the cost of drilling under the road will need to be factored in.

If you are interested in pursuing this check with your ISP about whether they have developed a service using RBI rural fibre.

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#1401680 7-Oct-2015 12:29

Thanks for that, it does go past and appears to ne on the other side of the road according to the map. I will make some enquiries and go from there. Thanks for the info.

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