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#191933 21-Feb-2016 14:23

I live about 50m from the street and was wondering about UFB wiring and how that is managed.

I currently have Vodafone cable installed many years ago. When I got connected TelstraClear at the time were happy to run their pairs of cables and coax in a plastic conduit on the ground under a fence that separates my property from a neighbour. Upon reaching the house, they tunneled under the driveway to the house and connected phones/cable.

Should I go UFB when it becomes available I doubt if the ISP can reuse that conduit and it would be quite expensive I would imagine to trench fibre all the way from the road to the house. So am I out of luck? There are no overhead lines in my area. So am I stuck with cable?

I do have Chorus twisted pairs also to the house (presumably trenched when the house was built about 25 years ago but it would be as difficult to use those conduits also I would imagine.

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#1496566 21-Feb-2016 14:26

Don't worry, Chorus will get you fibre somehow. They won't reuse your cable conduit but they will find a way. If they can't reuse the copper conduit, they may nail a new conduit to the fence, or trench, or whatever they need to do to get it working.

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#1496624 21-Feb-2016 19:04

That's good to hear. Chorus indicates they will be in my area in May. I can't wait. Vodafone cable has been a bit spotty lately. I hope whatever ISP is around (not Vodafone of course!) offers a 100Mbs plan with uploads better than 10Mbs

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#1496627 21-Feb-2016 19:25

You'll be fine. The minimum upload on a 100 fibre plan will be 20Mbps. :)

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#1498905 25-Feb-2016 00:59

They may attach ruggedised microduct directly to the fence, there will be a way. Once they blow the fibre into it you will probably find (being fibre and all) there are no actual wires from the street unless they need to use composite cable for some reason.

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#1498942 25-Feb-2016 08:28

I'm on a back section 50m from the street. Transfield/Chorus used the existing copper cable duct put in about 1995. They couldn't rod it and had to dig up a broken junction on corner of right of way and repair that first, then blew the cable to the back of my house from the street.

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#1498946 25-Feb-2016 08:43

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I'm on a back section 50m from the street. Transfield/Chorus used the existing copper cable duct put in about 1995. They couldn't rod it and had to dig up a broken junction on corner of right of way and repair that first, then blew the cable to the back of my house from the street.

I'm right on the street, but they used the copper conduit that went under my neighbour's property about 20-25 metres to the other road (I live one back from a corner).

They also had to dig to find a broken junction/blockage, but did the job admirably.

Actually, Chorus did such a good job, I felt compelled to write to them to praise the workers - even after digging a hold and attaching a box to my house, you'd never know they'd been...

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#1499362 25-Feb-2016 19:23

All good. I suspect I will have to choose another ISP also since Vodafone aren't going to provide UFB to me when they have cable in the ground and I use it now.

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#1499364 25-Feb-2016 19:28

lchiu7:

All good. I suspect I will have to choose another ISP also since Vodafone aren't going to provide UFB to me when they have cable in the ground and I use it now.

Are they still not budging on that policy? I would really like to stick with Vodafone for UFB when it comes to my street in the next few months, but there is an old (unused) cable connection in the house.

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#1499383 25-Feb-2016 19:49

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Are they still not budging on that policy? I would really like to stick with Vodafone for UFB when it comes to my street in the next few months, but there is an old (unused) cable connection in the house.

Reports around here seem to indicate they're not budging... pretty silly policy IMO; but just choose another ISP. (BigPipe or 2 degrees would be my picks)

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#1499385 25-Feb-2016 19:53

sidefx:

Reports around here seem to indicate they're not budging... pretty silly policy IMO; but just choose another ISP. (BigPipe or 2 degrees would be my picks)

from a cost perspective they make more money from selling cable than fibre so from a buisness perspective it makes sense, just sucks if you want the better service and want to stay with vodafone

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#1499410 25-Feb-2016 20:35

Jase2985:

from a cost perspective they make more money from selling cable than fibre so from a buisness perspective it makes sense, just sucks if you want the better service and want to stay with vodafone

Oh I don't disagree. Especially when the average punter probably has no idea of the difference between proper UFB and cable, which Vodafone even calls "Ultra Fast Naked Broadband - Cable" on their site, and thinks they've actually got UFB. Personally though, I'd recommend anybody who can get proper UFB go with that and don't look back...

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#1500174 26-Feb-2016 21:00

sidefx:

Jase2985:

from a cost perspective they make more money from selling cable than fibre so from a buisness perspective it makes sense, just sucks if you want the better service and want to stay with vodafone

Oh I don't disagree. Especially when the average punter probably has no idea of the difference between proper UFB and cable, which Vodafone even calls "Ultra Fast Naked Broadband - Cable" on their site, and thinks they've actually got UFB. Personally though, I'd recommend anybody who can get proper UFB go with that and don't look back...

I disagree. Losing customers because your refuse to give up on obsolete infrastructure is never good business. They won plenty of customers off Telecom Mobile back in the day for the same reason.

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