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#195582 25-Apr-2016 14:12

Is there any ISP's offering workable referral commissions on xDSL connections? In conjunction with a project I am doing I need an option or 2 to offer clients who do not have a preferred ISP. I have no interest in setting up an ISP of my own.

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#1541678 25-Apr-2016 14:27

BigPipe - use my link and sign up.

For each customer signed up using your referral code you get $20 and they get $20 too. You do have to be a customer for this. Otherwise something like Solarix, Vibe or becoming a Spark reseller.

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#1541680 25-Apr-2016 14:35

You could sell Voyager as well.

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#1541681 25-Apr-2016 14:35

michaelmurfy:

BigPipe - use my link and sign up.

For each customer signed up using your referral code you get $20 and they get $20 too. You do have to be a customer for this. Otherwise something like Solarix, Vibe or becoming a Spark reseller.

DarkShadow:

You could sell Voyager as well.

Thanks for your suggestions Michael and DarkShadow.

My thoughts are - There is plenty of offers for $25. It's not worth my time and I am not seeking to switch ISP. Internet clients are worth more then $25 anyway. I don't want to become a reseller either. If I wanted to run an ISP I'd set it up from scratch.

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#1541683 25-Apr-2016 14:38

Speaking as an individual, on a public holiday, and not representing my company AT ALL... If I were you I would recommend an ISP based on the experience your clients desire rather than putting money in your own pocket.

Of course, all else being equal, if all ISPs delivered the same service and support, then sure, choose the ones that have a referral - but that's not how it came across.

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#1541687 25-Apr-2016 14:49

Talkiet:

Speaking as an individual, on a public holiday, and not representing my company AT ALL... If I were you I would recommend an ISP based on the experience your clients desire rather than putting money in your own pocket.

Your post makes the assumption that everyone is willing to pay for and needs consultancy. In some cases all they want is to get connected and if I can offer them a better deal this way, that benefits them.

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#1541694 25-Apr-2016 15:26

I dunno, $20 for taking 10 seconds of your life to say "I recommend X, go here and sign up" seems like a pretty good deal to me.

I'd be more interested in how the referrals work - if it's as easy as above but gets you $20 it's probably better than a really complex system that gets you $100 but takes an hour of your time to manage.

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#1541695 25-Apr-2016 15:30

NonprayingMantis: I dunno, $20 for taking 10 seconds of your life to say "I recommend X, go here and sign up" seems like a pretty good deal to me.

What I am looking for is nothing like you describe. There is plenty of people already doing that. It's not my market.

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#1541698 25-Apr-2016 15:39

2Talk White label platform or the Voyager wholesale platform. Set the pricing yourself and earn as much as you want. But I guess that would mean taking on responsibility for clients, maybe 2Talk reseller is all you want - only a small commission though.

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#1541712 25-Apr-2016 16:21

MichaelNZ:
Is there any ISP's offering workable referral commissions on xDSL connections? In conjunction with a project I am doing I need an option or 2 to offer clients who do not have a preferred ISP. I have no interest in setting up an ISP of my own.

Can you explain further what you're looking for?

Are you looking to buy wholesale connections from an existing provider, mark up and on-sell to your own retail clients?

Or are you simply looking for an ISP that would flick you a commission every time someone you refer signs up?

If the latter, what is wrong with the BigPipe approach?

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#1541714 25-Apr-2016 16:25

MichaelNZ:
Either way your $20 offer does not fit within what I wanted.

What range are you thinking? A one off payment or ongoing monthly commision? Remember there is not that much profit in Internet connection so a monthly commision is probably only going. To be $5 -$10 maximum

Clint

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#1541736 25-Apr-2016 16:28

clinty:
MichaelNZ:

Either way your $20 offer does not fit within what I wanted.

What range are you thinking? A one off payment or ongoing monthly commision? Remember there is not that much profit in Internet connection so a monthly commision is probably only going. To be $5 -$10 maximum

Clint

I am only seeking upfront commission. I have learned the hard way in the past once an ISP has a customer signed up and paying them getting trailing commission paid is like getting blood out of a stone. Never again.

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#1541739 25-Apr-2016 16:36

MichaelNZ:

michaelmurfy:

Also, some customers might not agree with the price of providers that offer such a commission since their monthly costs are normally higher than a regular ISP.

I have no idea what your point is in relation to the original question asked. I am offering a service and I will be paid for it. In some instances this will be the customer and in some the internet provider.

Either way your $20 offer does not fit within what I wanted.

What I am saying is running an ISP is a low-margin business so commission payouts are pretty minimal and there is no ISP that is right for 100% of customers. There are providers like Voyager, Spark, HD.net and Solarix that offer reseller agreements however what I and others in this thread doing a recommendation on an ISP based on the customers needs is better than recommending just one provider hence why it is a good idea to have multiple reseller agreements with different ISP's or a major ISP like Spark where you can offer it to them.

I can tell you now you won't get much more than $20 per connection, hence why the BigPipe one (if you used BigPipe at home or switched to them) was actually both a simple and good option.

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#1541742 25-Apr-2016 16:47

michaelmurfy:

What I am saying is running an ISP is a low-margin business so commission payouts are pretty minimal and there is no ISP that is right for 100% of customers. There are providers like Voyager, Spark, HD.net and Solarix that offer reseller agreements however what I and others in this thread doing a recommendation on an ISP based on the customers needs is better than recommending just one provider hence why it is a good idea to have multiple reseller agreements with different ISP's or a major ISP like Spark where you can offer it to them.

I can tell you now you won't get much more than $20 per connection, hence why the BigPipe one (if you used BigPipe at home or switched to them) was actually both a simple and good option.

That's what ISP's claim, but when one considers the sort of metrics customer lists are sold for, I am appropriately skeptical.

It's my understanding a "reseller agreement" entails me buying services from them at a wholesale price and onselling them? If I was prepared to get involved in the financial side of this I'd simply setup my own ISP from scratch, which btw I could technically do.

$20 won't cut it. If that's all that's on offer I'd rather just let my clients make their own choices and/or pay me to help them. In other words I won't be able to offer a free or subsidised service for those wanting a basic connection.

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#1541744 25-Apr-2016 17:03

MichaelNZ: $20 won't cut it. If that's all that's on offer I'd rather just let my clients make their own choices and/or pay me to help them. In other words I won't be able to offer a free or subsidised service for those wanting a basic connection.

Looks like you've answered your own question.

I run an ISP. In our case, it's cheaper to acquire a new customer through an advertising campaign than to pay out anymore than $25 in referral credits to our customers.

If you were referring customers onto business plans with monthly spends greater than $150 / month, then you might find an ISP that values your referrals a bit more.

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#1541745 25-Apr-2016 17:05

MichaelNZ:

$20 won't cut it. If that's all that's on offer I'd rather just let my clients make their own choices and/or pay me to help them. In other words I won't be able to offer a free or subsidised service for those wanting a basic connection.

Go start up an ISP and you'll see for yourself that margins are very very small. It is not viable for providers to offer such a payment in-fact BigPipe with their credit is the biggest one I've seen.

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