VDSL and renovations what to I need?

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#207760 12-Jan-2017 15:07

Hi Guys,

We are currently renovating our house and I'm fitting out each room with coax and cat6 as I go. We've just upgraded to VDSL and the speeds haven't been ideal so I'm going to upgrade the wiring as part of my renovations. Our incoming line is aerial copper and I have installed an in wall cabinet for everything to run to (see photos). So my question is, what do I need to buy to redo the phone wiring and what do I need for the VDSL? Are there specific makes/models of the equipment that are preferable?

Pictures here

Ignore the hack job in the cabinet, the very beginning of a work in progress.

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#1702128 12-Jan-2017 15:39

Just run Cat 5 or cat 6 to the Demarc which in your install looks to be in the ceiling cavity.

Trace the cable to the 1st join and that is your Demarc point, then use the gel filled Scotchlok connectors to connect the 2 cables together.

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#1702147 12-Jan-2017 16:10

Excuse my ignorance. What's a Demarc? And should I upgrade it, because everything up there is 40 years old.

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#1702152 12-Jan-2017 16:14

The Demarcation point (The point at which the cable stops being Chorus's responsibility and starts being yours)

The Demarc could be a box with a join in it, or it could be the first phone socket.

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#1702157 12-Jan-2017 16:25

Ok, I know what you're referring to now. It's an ancient looking thing with bells. Ideally, I would like to bring it into the wall cabinet and have nothing in the roof but wiring. Where would I purchase a new version?

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#1702160 12-Jan-2017 16:34

Electrical wholesaler will have a box that you can put it in.

Plus they will sell you scotchlok's too.

If it were me, I would place the box in the ceiling, as close to the lead in as possible (Shortest cable run on the old cable) then run cat 5/6 from that box to your patch panel.

Connect up both pairs of the lead in cable

Blue to Blue
Black to Blue White*
Red to Orange
White to Orange White*

That way, if you need to change Pairs, or get a second line, you don't need to go in to the ceiling again.

*I could have swapped those, double check with the existing ones connected - make sure that the 2 currently connected stay on 1 pair of the cat5/6

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#1702162 12-Jan-2017 16:35

I would just buy one of these

Signet ST2206 Voice hub for xDSL/Copper, RJ45, 2-line.will cost you about $50

You mount your VDSL filter in it, then you just need to run your incomming line to the input, and you have the outputs on it for the Modem and for the phone lines that you can patch to your devices

here is a picture to show how it connects up
http://www.trical.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/SIGNET-ST2206-Wiring-Set-up.pdf

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#1702193 12-Jan-2017 18:50

Thanks Jase,

Looks exactly like what I'm after. Does the VDSL filter come with it or do you purchase it separately? If so does it have to be a signet one? I take it that these are available at most electrical wholesalers?

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#1702195 12-Jan-2017 19:03

unsure about the filter sorry

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#1702198 12-Jan-2017 19:19

I expect that it would be sold without a filter, and I don't think it would matter whether it was a Signet one or another brand.

You might also consider the ST2208 as an alternative. Similar, but with an integrated patch panel and less commoning jacks for phones. Note that I've never used either of these myself.

http://www.trical.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/SIGNET-ST2208-Phone-Hub-Basic-Wiring.pdf

As an alternative, you can also essentially make the same thing using just a patch panel, by making a dedicated jack for VDSL and commoning some jacks for phones, if that makes sense.

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