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Topic # 232009 25-Mar-2018 18:45
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More specifically, to the United States. I know this depends on a lot of factors, location being a big one. There was a time (about 2 years ago) where I was getting 140ms consistently to Western US servers with Slingshot (like California etc...). That was on an ADSL connection too. Since then, I've swapped to VDSL with 2Degrees, and I'm about to move out into a new flat. I'm based in CHCH and I'm currently trying to decide which ISP to hop over to. I've had quite good latency experience with Orcon during 2016 and mid 2017, however I'd like to hear what people have to say about international latency. 

 

I read a post from last year talking about 2Degrees having a good international latency, around 125ms to San Jose. Looking at the statistics from truenet from November 2017, Orcon seems to perform the best latency-wise across the board, so thats who I'm leaning towards right now. Again, I know latency is affected by a heap of factors, but I'm still curious as to what people may have to say.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

 

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  Reply # 1982979 25-Mar-2018 18:48
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ISP Routing is not static and changes and really the difference between 125ms to 200ms is all in the end users head

 

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  Reply # 1982980 25-Mar-2018 18:50
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This really depends on which landing point of sxc and handover from there.

 

 

 

most larger rsp's latency within NZ are neglect-able difference. 

 

 





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  Reply # 1982982 25-Mar-2018 18:52
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Yeah, I know it's one of those things where the routing is different for everyone, which is why I think I'll just go with the raw statistics on this one. I'm just looking forward to the drop in ms as I've had a fairly poor profile on my current VDSL connection (about 20ms higher to local servers than my ADSL one).


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  Reply # 1982983 25-Mar-2018 18:53
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Are you gaming over Wi-Fi or Ethernet?

 

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  Reply # 1982984 25-Mar-2018 18:54
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ctucks:

 

I'm just looking forward to the drop in ms

 

 

The drop in ms is only going to please your mind it's going to make zero difference otherwise

 

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  Reply # 1982985 25-Mar-2018 18:55
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Ethernet. First and foremost a PC gamer, so nothing console based. 


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  Reply # 1982986 25-Mar-2018 18:55
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ctucks:

 

Yeah, I know it's one of those things where the routing is different for everyone, which is why I think I'll just go with the raw statistics on this one. I'm just looking forward to the drop in ms as I've had a fairly poor profile on my current VDSL connection (about 20ms higher to local servers than my ADSL one).

 

 

Likely you are not going to get away from that without work.

 

 

 

ddDLM is pretty good at training profiles down these days for latency.

 

Meantime between errors is the trigger for if latency/INP (which requires interleaving) increases/decreases.

 

 

 

For latency, your still best off going ADSL as rsps are happy to order interleaving off. 





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  Reply # 1982987 25-Mar-2018 18:57
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Yeah, it's funny you mention that. Our VDSL profile was about 8mb faster down with Orcon than it is with 2Degrees right now, even though they promised we could get 70mb 'easily'. We had 30mb down with Orcon, but currently have around 22mb down. 




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  Reply # 1982989 25-Mar-2018 19:00
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ctucks:

 

I'm just looking forward to the drop in ms

 

 

The drop in ms is only going to please your mind it's going to make zero difference otherwise

 

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It's definitely noticeable for me. I play a lot of FPS and currently sit around 70-75ms to Melbourne servers. Back on my old ADSL connection, I got around 50ms. Every little helps smile


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ctucks:

 

Yeah, it's funny you mention that. Our VDSL profile was about 8mb faster down with Orcon than it is with 2Degrees right now, even though they promised we could get 70mb 'easily'. We had 30mb down with Orcon, but currently have around 22mb down. 

 

 

Show us the modem xDSL line stats and I don't believe any ISP would ' promise ' any speed they would of said ' Up to ' 70 Mbp/s down

 

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  Reply # 1982991 25-Mar-2018 19:02
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Supposedly we were 'miss informed' by a member of the customer service team, so I believe we were compensated a little for the misunderstanding. Its fine though, I won't be here in a few days so it's old news now.


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  Reply # 1982992 25-Mar-2018 19:02
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ctucks:

 

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ctucks:

 

I'm just looking forward to the drop in ms

 

 

The drop in ms is only going to please your mind it's going to make zero difference otherwise

 

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It's definitely noticeable for me. I play a lot of FPS and currently sit around 70-75ms to Melbourne servers. Back on my old ADSL connection, I got around 50ms. Every little helps smile

 

 

Sorry but the 20 to 25ms difference would not make any difference 

 

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ctucks:

 

Yeah, it's funny you mention that. Our VDSL profile was about 8mb faster down with Orcon than it is with 2Degrees right now, even though they promised we could get 70mb 'easily'. We had 30mb down with Orcon, but currently have around 22mb down. 

 

 

That says to me, your wiring is likely in poor condition and could have been looked at.

 

 

 

What will have happened is, When you switched providers, the port was reconfigured.

 

There are few weird old base profiles out there that simply preform like trash.





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  Reply # 1982994 25-Mar-2018 19:05
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I wouldn't be surprised. When our old VDSL connection with Orcon was in the early days of it's profile switching, every other week, on a Saturday night, our profile would swap to a decently low latency one with a significantly faster speed. We'd experience 0 issues on our end (no disconnections, packet loss etc...) But then 2-3 days afterwards, it'd reset and we'd lose the speed and latency drop. Weird. 


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Do you have a master filter installed with a dedicated xDSL jack point?

 

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